Animation Appreciation Thread #19

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Appreciate sakuga fall pls

>>942
realism type animation doesn't automatically mean good animation

>>942
Kanada/Imaishi animation doesn't always mean good animation neither.


What kind of shit argument was that dude, you can say this about everything.

>>961
As the scarce examples of young animators trying to do "realism" demonstrate, yes. This is why Iso is missed. Utsunomiya as well.

Bahi JD and Shingo Takenaka have the potential to be Utsunomiya and Okiura successors respectively, now all we need is someone to follow in Iso's footsteps

I feel like we've been over this already... Oh wait, we have.
http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1365539660/647

Maybe we should stop thinking the youngsters ought to 'replace' the old guys, it's not healthy thinking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k0FZAvh_G0&t=32s

Glorious rotations. When is FLCL's spiritual successor going to come out?  Tsurumaki please, finish with Eva faster.

I think there are no 'Iso imitators' because his animation doesn't really have any outward feature that's easy to see, dissect and reproduce. Ohira has the wobbliness, jagged lineworkd and hyperreal faces, Hashimoto is similar but more solid/weighty and he has distinctive folds and shading (at times). Kanada had the timing and poses, and he's probably the most easily imitable animator. Of course the gimmicks most 'Kanada' guys pull off have nothing on Kanada's own animation. The super-solid guys like Inoue or Okiura have the technique, but their approach is easily understandable and some people do imitate it. And so on, even new animators like Tanaka have like thousands of copycats.

But Iso didn't really have a shtick like that. Doing all the drawings yourself doesn't tell you much about the technique, neither does using 3s and 2s alternatively (basically everyone in Japan does something like this, with different types of animation). People say his animation didn't go pose to pose but flowed better, but that's more a statement of quality rather than describing his technique.
So yeah, it's hard to 'imitate' Iso because doing so would entail being an extremely good animator. Something most copycats really aren't.

>>967
Well said

Kevin Grevioux Interview
http://web.archive.org/web/20050215090150/http://www.strange-haven.com/news/092103/news3.html

NRAMA: In your view, what are some untapped gems still out there in the comic industry that would make good movies?

KG: I think 100 Bullets would make a good film. I’d also like to see Captain America and Alias. I tell you what I’d
really like to see, classic comic storylines made into feature length animated films. I mean on the level of Ghost In
The Shell, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Wicked City or even The Iron Giant. Just imagine Crisis On Infinite Earths and Kingdom
Come directed by Mamoru Oshii. Or the Kree/Skrull War, or the Galactus Trilogy done by Hiroyuki Kitakubo?

>>969
Crisis On Infinite Earths and Kingdom Come directed by Mamoru Oshii. Or the Kree/Skrull War, or the Galactus Trilogy done by Hiroyuki Kitakubo?

It'll probably be rubbish given the track record of japanese-made adaptations of western comic franchises, not that DC/Marvel's own animated features will do better though. When's the last time their animated features were actually well-made?

>>970
Some of the recent TMS animated DC films have some nice layout and animation.
I think it was mentioned in the past threads. One of them even had some H Tanaka.

Build Fighters 5; KenO episode had some nice mecha action.

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1941/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1942/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1944/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ib6cOz9euY

Expelled From Paradise character test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3sHHMuFQA

>>973
There are doing it like PAPERMAN

>>964

Bahi JD and Shingo Takenaka have the potential to be Utsunomiya and Okiura successors respectively, now all we need is someone to follow in Iso's footsteps


As far as I remember, Bahi said he doesn't want to follow anyone or become like the people he admires. But he said that he studied them all in order to later become a good animator and find his own style.


I don't think anyone can step into the footsteps of someone else.
See Goro Miyazaki, he tried to become like his father, failed.
See Kameda, tried to be better than Kanada, failed, now doing his own thing, FINALLY.

But that's normal,
all the animators we know used to imitate someone when they were young.
Check out old works by Ohira and Okiura and you will see what I mean.
It's part of the development of their own style.

It's normal that Takenaka reminds us to Okiura. He works with Okiura. They look up to their masters, but that doesn't mean that they will copy them.

There will never be another Iso, nor another Ohira or anyone else.
But there will be phases where young animators will remind us to certain masters.
And I don't even want to see another Iso guy, I rather prefer something new.
Iso's animation is already godly, I don't need someone to imitate him.

Before we talking about Bahi as new somesthing something we should wait until he has more than just one cut in an anime production.

>>977
Space Dandy


Btw, anyone knows what Takenaka is up to?
Is he working on ARISE?

>>978

Yeah, Space Dandy. And what's your opinion about his cuts for Space Dandy?

>>979
Check twitter, smartass

>>980

Does Twitter stream anime now?

Just because one guy told Bahi his cuts were great doesn't mean his cuts were actually great.

His cuts have got like a million layers, what could go wrong?

>>981
>>982
Implying Thomas Romain or Yutapon would lie.

Some people are stupid. We know already KLK is shit, that doesn't mean everything else has to be shit.

Please stop the hype. Let's just wait.

I have a feeling that even if Space Dandy ends up looking great,
some people will start hating for no reason because of the hype.

>>984


Implying Thomas Romain or Yutapon would lie.

Shingo Natsume too
https://twitter.com/natsunatsume/status/390930363746250752

Everyone is lying.
Space Dandy is a lie, Bahi didn't even animate for Space Dandy.

sakuga is a lie

Bahi DJ is superior to ISO , Honda, Okiura, Ohira, Miyazaki, ANNO, Glean keane, R.Williams, GOD (and jesus christ)

The cake is a lie

Still alive

Bahi OS

>>988
We've had this before, it's not funny anymore. Grow up.

Really high quality animation in KnK episode 6. That dance scene was great. Best sakuga this season so far.

>>991

The postcard memories looked like shit though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxx2pnBKHes

Wizard Barristers PV 2

>>993

Nozomi Abe and Takashi Hashimoto confirmed as animation and effect animation directors.

Sakuga Winter confirmed!

>>993

If Umetsu was not a perv, this would be a great show.
The animation looks great, the first PV had better animation though.

It will be great because he is a perv.

Wow... I guess I was right when I saw Ishihara listed for doing storyboard even he's not the director.

I feel that this is like KyoAni showing they can do a well choreographed dance without Yamakan.

Imagine if they did this with Chuu2. This would've been really awesome.

I hope this show gets decent sales so it has a chance of releasing a Genga book.

It's gonna be fucking sad again if it doesn't release it like Nichijou.

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