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Animation Appreciation Thread #19

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 11:20

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Appreciate sakuga fall pls

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 6:16

Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most powerful anti-war films ever made.
It doesn't matter if people know him or not,
he is as great as Miyazaki.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 6:35

>>920

He is. He even got the honorary Medal with a Purple Ribbon from the Emperor of Japan. Miyazaki didn't, yet. Everyone knows of Heidi, Akage no Anne, Grave of the Fireflies and even Omohide Poroporo.

the revenue of his films

Tonari no Yamada-kun is the only one of his films that didn't do that well at the box office. If you think Takahata isn't a household name, you are gravely mistaken. He doesn't get millions to spend because he's Miyazaki's "buddy".

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 6:42

he's Miyazaki's "buddy"

He's not just his buddy. He's his senpai. Takahata was directing anime for over a decade before Miyazaki, and was very successful.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 6:53

>>920

You'd be surprised, but if we are to talk about revenue, classics like Totoro and Laputa were flops. After Nausicaa, Miyazaki only found commercial success with Kiki Delivery Service.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 8:05

>>924
You got this from that Takahata interview, no? He also said that Totoro wasn't a flop if you took into account merchandise.

I know Only Yesterday was #1 on its year, and I think Pompoko as well. But I'm talking about when Ghibli started getting really big, i.e. post-Mononoke. Yamadas flopped, while Spirited Away is the highest grossing film in the history of Japan. Howl's is close to that, hell, even Arriety made more money than any Takahata film.

I don't think Kaguyahime will straight-out bomb, but if it was really as expensive as they say, they'll need to make a ton of money to cover the costs (even Kaze Tachinu hasn't paid for itself yet, according to Suzuki).

>>921
Grave is like, the worst Takahata film. And I think he's the best, most important director in the history of anime. But that doesn't translate into money, unfortunately.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 8:05

Most of the people here are obviously too young.

Takahata has been playing a very big role for Ghibli and the 20th century film history.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 8:35

>>926
Most of the people here are obviously too young.

Yes and, Grandpa?

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 8:41

>>926

Yeah, Miyazaki was barely known prior to Nausicaa. In the early days, most of the credit Ghibli had came by association of the staff with Suzuki and Takahata. People don't really realize this, especially (or almost exclusively) outside of Japan. Or maybe it's just the anglophone countries that didn't get any World Masterpiece Theatre anime series.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 8:42

>>927

I think that was just his polite way of saying you're a clueless greenhorn.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 9:25

>>929
I know. But what does it have to do with the topic or even the thread?

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 9:29


Kaguya-Hime has been in production for over 8 years,
Iso disappeared 8 years ago.


Osamu Tanabe is Iso's mentor,
They have worked many times together.
Last time they worked together was on Takahata's film.

Think about it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 12:35

>>931
Tanabe isn't Iso's mentor. Iso didn't disappear 8 years ago.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 15:23

>>931
lel

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 15:28

How old is Iso
50 years old ?

Takahata is 80 years old or something ?

How he manages to work again ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 15:38

>>932
Also I'm pretty sure the last time they worked together was in Junkers Come Here (or Golden Boy 6 according to sakugawiki).

Tanabe is more friends with Hashimoto/Ohira, though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-02 21:29

Iso is from that rare year known as 1966 when a ton of godly animators were born.

Mitsuo Iso、Imazaki Itsuki、Satoshi Urushihara、Masami Obari、Shinya Ohira、Hiroyuki Okiura、Kenichirou Katsura、Toshiyuki Tsuru、Kazuya Tsurumaki、Norio Matsumoto、Akihiko Yamashita、Masahiro Yamane、Toshiharu Murata

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 6:01

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 9:25

>>936

Can't believe some people expect Iso to come back now.
He is 49, leave him alone. If he ever comes back, he is probably going to direct, not animate.


Now it's time for the 80s and 90s born animators.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 9:29

https://twitter.com/AYMRC/status/397005964391370754
Saw Space☆Dandy EP 1&2 at Studio Bones. One of the best TV show in 2014. A lot animations were just incredible, MAD makers will enjoy this.

https://twitter.com/AYMRC/status/397006657504296960
@bahijd your cuts on Space☆Dandy are amazing! Just wanted to say it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 11:38

>>939
Yep. This is Kill la Kill hype all over again.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 13:24

>>939
I think this time, the hype is real.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 14:11

>>938
But half the young animators can't draw and produce bland stuff. None of them have come close to Iso, not that any of them care about realism or mechanical animation anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 14:23

>>942

But half the young animators suck
true,
half of the animators always sucked, even during the AKIRA generation.

What did you expect?

You can't magically become a skilled animator.
The 80s and 90s animators need to work, they will probably show their full potential in a few years.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 16:55

Iso will come back for FINAL

Him ,Honda,  itano and Anno will animate some shit superior to EoE by a country mile

okay i dream , jesus make it happen.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 19:12

>>940

Only that Space Dandy has many experienced animators confirmed. Bahi is clearly one of the weaker animators in the Space Dandy circle. And it looks like it will be a high budget show unlike the mesh called Kill La Kill.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-03 23:33

>>944
Please, you were harboring the similar hopes for 3.0 and we all know how that turned out. Just look forward to Kaguyahime, that's the sakuga movie of the decade.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 0:41

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 1:25

>>944
Jesus only cares about your sins, not your sakuga.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 1:49

>>948
>2013
>not praying to your deity of choice for sakuga


Pray for Iso ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 5:27

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 5:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaAfgzaLaFA

First 3 minutes of Madoka movie 3

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 6:29

>>951

Say what you must about SHAFT's animation but they got a knack for making things look very fresh visually.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 6:58

Bahi is clearly one of the weaker animators in the Space Dandy circle.

Are there even other young key-animators like him working at Bones?
I think all key-animators at Bones are in their 30s except him.

Trigger is the only studio that is filled with key-animators at the age of 23.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 7:03

>>952
>fresh

It's the same Inu Curry paper cutouts everyone is used to seeing in Madoka. There's nothing fresh about it anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 7:04

>>953

Trigger is the only studio that is filled with key-animators at the age of 23.

Takafumi Hori is 37. But except him, everyone else is in their 20s.

Although, I think Dendo is also very old.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 7:11

>>953

according to sakuga wiki,
Bahi is the youngest sakuga animator working in the industry.

http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/31.html


Keisuke Kojima (Trigger) is few months older than him.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 7:25

>>956

Although, I think Dendo is also very old.

Dendo is 29. Check sakuga wiki.
Also it's bullshit that Trigger animators are in their 20s.
They are as old as the animators at Bones.

That's not a good excuse for the bad animation in Kill La Kill.

When Akira was made, most of the animators were all in their 20s.
Most of the Animators these days just suck and have very limited drawing skills.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 8:17

>>954

lrn2quoteproperly101

Fuck off. Go troll /a/ or something.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 8:21

>>958
Feel free to latch on to a simple mistake, but I stand by my opinion that there's nothing fresh about Madoka's visuals.

Name: Anonymous 2013-11-04 13:11

>>947
Looks great, but I'm afraid that PV just showed all of the best parts. We'll see what happens in 5 days.

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