Animation Appreciation Thread #19

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Appreciate sakuga fall pls

http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/yumemakura-baku-s-twilight-theatre

>>772

STEP THE FUCK UP KYOANI SENPAI.

No seriously. This just blows every single thing KyoAni has done in KnK both in LN PV and actual episodes. They really need to break the fucking mold and let some talented animators do their thing.

IMO they need to do more CMs and stimulate potential talents.

"So, the third movie is out. /a/ is chock full of spoilers, so if any of you are afraid of seeing those I'd advise to stay well away for a while. For those of you who are interested, though, I've summed up the story from what I could understand of the spoilers (those that have been confirmed, anyway):"

Madoka is touching EoE levels of awesomeness ??

Where is Iso ?

>>802

Nichijou and Hyouka were just that, but unlike Trigger KyoAni lost their way.

Coppelion #4 Car & Background animation

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1855/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1856/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1857/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1858/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1859/
http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1860/

Is there a way to get rid of the the fucking digital full-screen filters.
The show would look so great without this bullshit.

>>805
Hiroshi Okubo?

>>804

Nope. Both are great in their own respective context. Hyouka follows the typical SoL path. Nichijou goes for action packed gags.

It's fair to compare Madoka to KnK since both deal with serious tones of action.

>>808
And what do you mean by 'break the mold'? Abstract shorts?

The KLK fights were kind of a letdown.

technical perfect but I guess you can see that the KyoAni animators and directors don't have any experience with action series anymore.

Boring choreography and some weird camera positions.

>>810

I mean KnK... though KlK is quite the opposite.

http://abload.de/img/tumblr_mvajkck8qw1r1xc4qxv.gif

Sakura taisen

I saw the movie long time ago with the famous choregraphy dance scene
The song was sakura xmas
It's true to say that this movie launched the "very well animated dancing scenes" we can see nowadays in idolmaster anime and such ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3otetBrSos

Sakura taisen was ahead of his time

The movie intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy0U8rp_Lco

According to you It was rotoscoped ?

>>812
Where's that from?

>>809

If I say let them do more action someone will say I just don't like their shows at all. For the record I like most of KyoAni shows. The acting is top notch and very consistent all throughout. With doing almost the 80% SoL all the time, you can see how jarring their weakness is in this genre(action). I'm not saying they should shift genre ASAP but at least give some new talent a chance to be more creative than usual. Hence why I said doing a CM is the best way to hone some skills.
 
In all honesty, throwing aside character designs and all; I can't wrap my head around it but there's definitely something about the character's mannerism and how they move in the show. I feel that it's easy to tell it's KyoAni. That's why maybe if they were given a chance in trying things out freely they might come up with something pretty fresh.

>>816
Yes, it's generally easy to tell a Kyoani show apart from the animation. Most of their sakkans draw hands similarly (including how they do it more realistic in close-ups and blobbier in mid-shots) and have similar linework. There are some tics in the acting that are pretty specific and consistent to Kyoani shows, like how a lot of the times the character will 'bounce' while speaking if she/he is slightly excited/upset, the rhythm with which most animators change the expressions (3/4 into a line they will throw a subtle change, a lot of times), and generally the poses they use are somewhat similar. This is all natural, they're all in-house working closely with each other, so their style is fairly inbred. It happened to the close-knit subcontract studios of the 70s and 80s too, you could have an 'Oh Pro' style, a 'Telecom' style or an 'Anime R' style because these artists were influencing each other all the time and their work became similar.

As for action, I don't really need Kyoani to do action. I can get my fix of that watching sakuga MADs or BONES shows. Serious character dramas without slapstick and an interesting visual approach (i.e. Hyouka) and zany gag-comedies (i.e. Nichijou) work well with their animation. They should do more of that with better source material, if you ask me. Of course diversifying is good, but I don't really find it necessary or mandatory.

You can see KyoAni's acting style in Saint Oniisan movie.

>>810

Ishidate needs to find ways. If he's going director now and he keeps his word about him not touching KAs(excluding the OP/ED) then someone needs to step up.

Kyoani Kyoani Kyoani
find another topic to discuss, so boring.

Allright, they let's Space Dandy.

I've heard that Yutapon and Bahi jD are animating  scene beside scene.
What do you guys think about  putting a master animator like Yutapon beside a newcomer like Bahi JD?
Will they influence each other ?

>>820

Dealw/it nerd

>>821

*Alright, then let's talk about Space Dandy-
Sorry I had to do this.

>>821
Yutapon will influence BahiJD, no way it could be the other way around. BahiJD once even tweeted that he asked for an advice from Yutapon.

>>821
I'm not sure if they will influence each other since both are very individual animators.
Both Yutapon and Bahi are animators that challenge themselves instead of challenging others.

But there is probably a certain exciting pressure on both of them.


It's a friendly pressure.
Yutapon wants to prove himself in front of his old friend Watanabe. They haven't worked together since Bebop, and he was always animating the important scenes in Bebop.

And Bahi wants to prove himself in front of the great master.
I can imagine that he felt some kind of pressure knowing that his work will be showcased beside Yutapon's.

I hope Bahi won't try to become a Yutapon copy-cat, it would be totally useless trying to overcome the original. I hope he will continue doing his own thing.

>>825
I'm not sure if they will influence each other since both are very individual animators.

I don't totally agree with you.

As >>824 said.
Bahi will get some tips from Yutapon, advice doesn't certainly mean that he will try to become like Yutapon.
But the young student will always learn useful things from his master, he doesn't have to become a copy-cat for that.

Getting advice is different than trying to imitate someone.

>>825
I hope Yutapon will develop his acting sakuga,
His action work is already perfect.

Yutapon wants to prove himself in front of his old friend Watanabe. They haven't worked together since Bebop, and he was always animating the important scenes in Bebop.

That's a good point.

And about Bahi JD, I hope he will animate more shots, his work on Apollon was really short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVbzf4igjx0

Sakuga Mix 20

honda http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3464108?ref=search_tag_video

http://www.totoroclub.net/t_ghibli/3942.html

What the fuck is a "petit film"?

"petit film" is french
It means Tiny movie or little movie

aka short film !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO3SaxHQsWs

>>815

One of the many poorly animated Gay Baseball cuts. I wish the show would have more than just 3/4 well animated cuts each episode.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16im6l_c_shortfilms

mite b sakuga

>>835
you ain't gonna fool me again, Trigger

Episode 5 has Hori.
His part should be at least decent.

>>837
Hori is good, I will check out his part.
He is the only good and individual in-house animator at Trigger.
Hori doesn't try to be an Imaishi copy-cat.

>>838
You sure Hori is in-house? Also, there are guys like Sushio and Yoshinari who aren't Imaishi copycats at all.

>>657
http://youtu.be/NwKMYYfWHHo
just walking, no runs