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Animation Appreciation Thread #19

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 11:20

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Appreciate sakuga fall pls

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 9:55

>>639
I was thinking of Ohira first, but since he already did animation for Kaze Tachinu...

What did Hashimoto do in Hamaji's Ressurection anyway?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:09

>>641
Running through the field, it had those same carbon-ish lines and timing, that's why it reminded me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:12

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:20

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:24

>>644
>that Norio Matsumoto cut lumped together with the rest

Fuck that shit

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:38

>>629

Best animatic I've ever seen.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:39

I wonder when busterbeam will get tired of shitposting in this thread.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:42

>>646
animatic

Is this nigger serious?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:45

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:47

>>648

implying half of the cuts in that trailer aren't missing inbetweens
implying any cut in that trailer went through post-processing
implying that isn't an animatic that's just touched up in places

This is how that footage will look once it's done in full - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbFOEvYIS4

Why would a high action scene have slower timing than a baby crawling on the floor or a girl looking out the window? There's no way that trailer isn't using work in progress material.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:49

>>650

You are an idiot.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:52

>>650

There's no way that trailer isn't using work in progress material.

Are you retarded? I guess you would also call all the shots in Takahata's "Neighbor Yamadas" animatics too.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:52

>>650

The backgrounds aren't fully drawn and colored either. If this isn't an animatic but the final version, the film will look like shit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:53

>>652

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Tonari no Yamada-kun looked this bad?

>>651

That's my line.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 10:58

>>653
>>654

If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:01

>>655

Yeah, keep trolling. Or go back to school. Seems you fail at reading comprehension big time. I wouldn't be surprised if you're the same shitstain who shitposts about sales in here.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:04

http://vimeo.com/52069544

Animated walks and runs

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:09

missing inbetweens
What? Most of that trailer is on 1s and 2s bro.
post-processing
I don't see why it wouldn't have. The colors are balanced, the lighting is already on place.

The first trailer is a scene in a different place, at a different point in the film, probably made by a different animator. If your problem are the rough b&w trees, I'm sorry but you'll be disappointed because it's supposed to look like that. If you have another specific problem, please elaborate.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:10

KyoAni should be a taboo studio since they're nothing special anyway.

It feels like everyone has their Haruhi goggles too tight.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:11

The green frame should be a dead giveaway that this is WIP. The sideways running cut  18 seconds in has incomplete background art. Same with the cut 24 seconds in, which is also missing inbetweens. The cut 36 seconds in uses incomplete background art. It's also not the final photography and has no harmony layer. The run into the moon at the end is also incomplete - you can even see the details fading in as the cut progresses similar with the 10 second house CM trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzW8ZUPw-s). Just look at the sides to spot it.

The only cut that seems to be close to its final form is the run through the forest. I suspect they'll only add some subtle effects to it, seems complete otherwise.

If you seriously think this is the final version of the footage you're retarded. Takahata like gowing against the stream, but he's not stupid. People would be walking out of the theatre if they showed them an incomplete work like this.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:12

>>660

likes going*

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:20

>>660
The green frame was not there in the original broadcast (I watched the .ts), the taiwanese cappers added it because they're retarded like that.

I'll give you the 24sec cut (though it could, again, be a problem with the cap and it looks like that), but the others are finished. Perhaps they will add some subtle digital effects, but I'm pretty sure you're seeing what you'll get. The BG at 18secs looked like that in the PR photos they released, they wouldn't use WIP for that (and none of the other photos were WIP). The cut at 36secs has some jitter at the background, but it doesn't look bad to me. The grass is obviously animated and intentionally drawn like that for effect.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:27

>>662

The BG at 18secs looked like that in the PR photos they released

It didn't. The PR photo didn't have the BG layer.
Cap problems or WIP, I hope and really think the film doesn't look like this. I will eat my balls if it does. I don't think Takahata is aiming for Windy Tales here.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:28

>>662
>>663

And I'm not talking about the Yamada0like style of the drawings.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 11:37

>>663
Oh, but it did?
http://youtu.be/af0hwlKjgpE?t=30s
You can also see how much sharper and touched the trailer looks in comparison.

I don't think Takahata is the main responsible for the visual style of the film. He has to approve it, yes, but it looks just like Osamu Tanabe's beverage commercials, polished to feature film-level. If you don't like it, well, that's too bad, but if you had no problem with the other bits of footage they released it could just be a problem you have with this scene (the trailer seems to be a single, long scene) and not the entire film.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:16

Ok. KnK 4 done. I'm prepared to drop this show.

Nothing really good coming out this season.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:17

Yeah, so far the only thing that impressed me was Takeuchi's cut in Yuushibu 1.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:19

Or maybe you guys are just finally seeing KyoAni for what they really are. A so-so studio with no versatility.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:29

>>628
Kill la Kill? Not really, still waiting for something impressive. It's stylish but kinda cheap too
Dafuq?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:29

>>666

Are you talking about the animation or are you one of the other dozens of tards that mix the animation with everything else in the show and complain about it in an animation thread? Just like >>668

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:31

Nobody gives a shit about what shows you're watching or dropping. This is the animation appreciation thread. Either talk about animation, or fuck off.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:35

>>669

Yes, go on. "Dafuq?" what?  Are you seriously trying to say Kill la Kill's animation was impressive in any way? That whole show is carried by the layouts and art direction. Not the animation, with its crap CG and digital tweens.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:37

>>670

Animation you dumb fuck. Did you see how terribly bland most of the fight scenes in KnK are?

Or are you gonna brush it off and just say that it's because their approach is different?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:41

>>673

Also I agree with >>668

They really don't have versatility in a way that they can't handle this kind of genre animation wise. Only a few of them can probably come up with something good. That fucking escalator scene had some bogus cuts that look weird.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:46

>>672
Episode 1 has good animation by Takafumi Hori.
Episode 2 was pretty shit.
Episode 3 has 2 awesome transformation scene and the action is great, better than KnK, in fact.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:47

I guess Kyoani just isn't really capable when it comes to action. Takemoto is awesome but ep 4 was just so boring. The layouts and staging for the action lacked any sort of energy, and the digital camerawork was deplorable. Though I actually liked the small bits in ep 1 when the youmu showed up at the end. The editing and quick cuts between shots was exciting. Maybe Ishidate is better at this stuff than Takemoto is? His episodes have been really disappointing

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:53

At any rate, we should wait for the Kigami episode. If someone can make good action out of this it's him.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 12:57

Without Ishidate being available for KA, I'm setting expectations at minimum.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 13:09

What's wrong with the action animation in KnK again?

>>675

What.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-23 13:13

>>675

Totally. The scream louder in Kill la Kill, and that translates into better animation. The fuck are you talking about? Besides Honda's transformation the only good cut of animation in episode 3 was that scene with Mako's dad and brother running around the room, not the crap action scenes.

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