Animation Appreciation Thread #19

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Appreciate sakuga fall pls

Imaishi is a Dezaki wannabe. What do you guys expect?

>>241

So is Shinbo. Your point? It's not like Imaishi is doing 100% of the work in KLK. Gurren Lagann wasn't this bad by any means. So far the production seems more similar to Panty and Stocking, and I'm not saying that in a good way.

>>242

And Shinbo doesn't put a high focus on "sakuga", exactly my point.

Gurren Lagann was the playground of various creative people - it was more or less the final work of the post-EVA Gainax staff, while Panty and Stocking and Kill La Kill are completly his things.

Gurren Lagann was pretty cheap at times, though.

Pokemon Origins is a better anime than KlK

I think only Osamu Kobayashi's Kill La Kill episode will be great.
Kobayashi is fucking serious.

You will all see, Kobayashi is not like the others.
It will have genius sakuga,
genius design
and genius story.


But again, even a genius Kobayashi episode can not save a whole show, it needs more.

Only Tadashi Hiramatsu and Osamu Kobayashi can bring freshness to Kill La Kill.

I don't see any hope in Imaishi.

The problem with Imaishi as director is that
he is not looking forward,

he is looking back and he is trying to be like the old guys.
He should think about himself instead and what he wants to do, not what was done before.


I'm tired of the excuse of people coming up with
Trigger schedule is short, Trigger has no money

no, that's not the reason why the animation quality isn't interesting.

When I watched the Ustream session of Kameda few weeks ago,
he said something that really got my respect.

He said that he was worried about his future, that people would see him just as a copy-cat, so he threw everything away and started from scratch, going his own path of animation. Thats why he hasn't been active lately, he is studying to create something fresh.

I wish him good luck and great success and hopefully he will make it.
Although, I think his Kanada style was fully developed, but it was still not 100% Kameda even if it felt like his type of Kanada.


People like Imaishi can't throw things away and start from scratch.

Good luck Kameda, you are the man.

I think the Kill La Kill OP was good.

But the ending was total shit.

>>250
they were both shit except the transformation part by Hiramatsu.

Kill La Kill is good,

but can we all agree that it's not as good as Gurren Lagann?

Am I the only one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_q2I2IyT4

Galilei Donna> Kill la Kill

http://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/1751/

I think you guys should just get over the fact that Kill la Kill is not the sakuga bomb we were expecting.
The animation is nothing special, but the show delivers under every other aspect, so who cares. Really, if only we could get a should like this every season instead of all the lame crap that we get regularly, which even with the best animation in the world ends up boring me within 10 minutes.
Go watch Kyoukai no Kanata or Yozakura Quartet or something, if you can manage that without falling asleep. It's not like this season lacks well animated stuff.

>>255
I agree with you.

The animation is weak but
Kill la Kill is a better show than all those other shits.
But Kill La Kill is probably Imaishi's worst show.

But again, I agree with you, there is nothing better to watch.


But Kill la Kill is a total shit compared to Gurren Lagann.
Just take a look at the story.

There is this bitch that wants to kill some other bitch because she thinks that bitch killed her father. WOW that's so interesting, I don't give a fuck.
And I bet at the end, she was wrong about that bitch.
Also, there is almost no time given to us to feel any symphathy for the characters and their actions.

Kill La Kill is a fucking fanservice bullshit hiding under the great designs of Sushio, they are wasting great talents on this.
I saw it coming after I saw her hentai dress.
Just exchange the character design of Sushio with Kyoani designs in your mind and you will see what I mean.

I can't believe they want to pull this shit off for over 26 episodes.
How are things going to develop through the story when there is no story?

And the characters are flat as I don't give a  fuck.

I'm angry because they hyped this show fucking up to the top of my ass.
And it didn't reached what they were promising.
Fucking Trigger and their ass marketing propoganda.
All those fucking comments from the early screening, fuck them!

also
Little Witch Academia would have been a better show for Trigger.
But I guess the producers don't fuck with that.

Kill La Kill #2
http://i.imgur.com/Pnyc1b1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VDjTFhx.jpg
Shouko Nakamura, Kouno-chan, Umakoshi, and Masayuki Sato

http://free.5pb.org/s/salon1381432566325.gif

>>235
This is soulless

>>255
The animation is nothing special, but the show delivers under every other aspect, so who cares.

This is an animation thread, you know?

I really really realy want to like KLK and want it to be successful so that guys at Trigger can produce more ambitious projects in the future, but I find the story uninteresting. The characters are unlikeable to me. The music doesn't fit the mood of the show most of the time.  The animation is, well, you know.
The only thing I really like in the show is the art direction.

I might drop the show if it doesn't get better and wait for its sakuga MAD.

>>249
That's awesome.

Ohira was a Kanada-school animator when he was young too, wasn't he?

>>263
Started out as a Masahito Yamashita copycat, underwent a traumatic experience animating millions upon millions of cels worth of background animation for those LD games, became maniacal about moving everything, started doing humans after Gosensozama, ended up doing Hamaji, retired, came back as a weird mix of his previous realist style and ultra-abstract sensibilities that resulted in wanwa.

The guy's an outlier in terms of stylistic evolution.

Panty and Stocking and Kill La Kill are completly his things.

No wonder they suck balls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfx4pqSpJ2s

Studio Mir episode for Korra this week

>>264
Hisashi Mori was similar as well right?

Started Kanada school, underwent a Mitsuo Iso phase and turned into the realist animator he is now, similar to Ohira.

I would be amazed if Kameda turned into a more realist animator.

>>267
Mori is considered to be a realist animator?

Kill la Kill episode 2 is filled with software tweening. This series is officially shit.
Dropped. Live a buzz if there is any good cut in a future episode.

Thanks.

Also,

>>241

Dezaki, Dezmaki. What do you mean Dezaki? Because the episodes are full of "postcard memories"? This series is no different than a shitty western cartoon. Some anon said above it's like P&S? Yeah, I agree with that. Same philosophy western animation has fallen pray to in the last decade. Cheap _as_ whacky - CG, flash, digital tweening, transparent slides etc All hidden behind the art direction as a design choice. Cow and Chicken wasn't animated like shit though. It was just whacky animation. Kill la Kill is like these recent shitty Cartoon Network series, only made by the Japanese and with homages to old Japanese series. Awful. Just awful.

I pray it flops. If it's successful it will set a worrisome precedent.

>>267
I wouldn't really call Mori  "realist" in the same sense as mid-90s Ohira or the other common realist animators like Okiura. His Niji-iro Hotaru is wobbly and sketchy as hell, with morphing lineart and spare facial features that heighten expression.

>>269
ep 2's budget-saving because
1. it's a comedy episode and you can save
2. ep 3 will be crazy

it wasn't Dennou Coil or something but the motion was super-expressive and full of life

>>272
Moving cardboard cutouts aren't full of life.

>>272

Motion? There was barely any motion. And sorry, no. This is super expressive and full of life:

http://vimeo.com/45615146

This is what Kill la Kill is trying to be. It just sucks at it. It's a snore fest. Soulless. Just like Adventure Time and what have you.

Call me after episode 3 already aired. I don't buy your predictions.

lel

people still crying about this

I "hate" to say I told you so but, I told you so. Many months ago. The good old Gainax is over at Khara (wasting their talent on a remake). The other Gainax is in the containment camp called Trigger. And the corpse is in the grave.

>>272

busterbeam, please...

Good, that Inu Curry is doing interesting stuff atleast.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWTCcSdCIAA8c15.jpg

Kill la Kill genga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCf9ohRszPg

Giovanni's Island

>>278
Ohira at 0:34?

I hope KLK flops so we finally get more LWA.