/carcom/ - Animation Appreciation thread #18

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 8:39

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Appreciate animation pls

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:33

>>878
Overall it tops, but Iso's sniper scene can't top Iso's evangelion scene.

Generally yeah, this looks cooler than EoE.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:35

>>880

I like Imaishi's works from 90s and early 2000s.
They were really great, specially his work on One Piece Movie 6.

But this http://youtu.be/b79KLMqQL6c sucks.

Name: ボンズ最高 2013-10-01 10:35

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:37

>>882

Oh god, he is almost like Arasan here, what the fuck?!
You sure this is Imaishi?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:41

Imaishi is overrated.

He did some genius sakuga works in FLCL as example, but he is not that interesting anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:44

>>882
>>885

He is getting old, that's what you want to say.

I think he should focus on directing now rather than the visuals.
His visual work is not as powerful as it used to be.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 10:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDRMeeuP3F0

Richard Williams

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:16

>>887
the message is cool

but I've seen better superman animations.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:34

>>884

Funny, I actually thought "what? Arasan got better?" when I first saw the scene 882 posted. And then I found out it was by Imaishi and I was completely disappointed. That spin blob is really awful. And the move-freeze timing throughout is so poorly disguised. Not even average...

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:35

When was Imaishi's animation ever better than his storyboarding? People remember him for stuff like FLCL 5, RCH1, Dead Leaves and TTGL 8... but he didn't do a particularly high amount of key animation for any of them. All the key scenes were done by other people.

He directed Hideaki Anno's favorite anime OP of all time yet he didn't do any KA for it (Hiramatsu was AD): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM9_WHbm3OE

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:41

When was Imaishi's animation ever better than his storyboarding

All the time? Go mention anywhere how Kanada style animation is kinda cheap and you'll see people immediately asking even Imaishi and (Kameda etc)?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:43

>>890

That OP is lightyears better than the whole OVA.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:46

>>891

I meant to say he is considered good often.
I'm not a fan of him in any way.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:46

>>880
>>882
>>885
>>886 >>886
why does it matter if you like his animation or not? he isn't going to solo-animate the op; he is just storyboarding it and his conte skills are whole level above umetsu's or nakazawa's. the scenes in re-cutey honey 1, ttgl 1 or psg 1b are inventive and fun through layouts alone.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 11:49

>>891
How does that contradict what I said? People consider his animation good but they most likely find his work in direction and storyboard more memorable. When people talk Iso, they talk about Asuka versus the Evas rather than Rahxephon 15 or Dennou Coil; when people talk Imaishi, they talk FLCL 5, Dead Leaves or Gurren-Lagann rather than any specific scene.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:05

>>895

Heh, now that I think about it, you're right. Whatever.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:09

>>894

Because I really do not care for Imaishi's storyboarding or directing. At all. I was not talking only about animation here

>>880

I don't like a single thing Imaishi did. Well, I lied - I like the manga cuts in FLCL and Kare Kano. And the Cutie Honey OP is pretty fun too, although more because it has better fanservice than the whole series. But as far as his style in general goes, it's just not for me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:13

>>897
so you judge direction and storyboarding just by what appeals to you? that's pretty close minded.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:20

>>872
Well no problem !
That's proove we can talk like normal people there.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:21

>>879
Probably the same method they used in Kid's Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqxU_bSLV6Q

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:26

>>898
so you judge direction and storyboarding just by what appeals to you?
Isn't this what we all do?
We don't have enough knowledge about film making to judge these thing objectively anyway.

And he didn't say Imaishi was bad. He just doesn't like.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:27

>>901
>He just doesn't like him

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 12:48

I prefer Imaishi's animation to his conte or directing. He's pretty boring as a director honestly, his works wouldn't be any good at all if he didn't have a whole team of brilliant layout artists and animators working alongside him.

His cut in FLCL 4 is one of the best things ever though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 13:08

>>903

I agree with you BUT IF he was as good as back then on FLCL.

I don't prefer his current animations anymore, he is obviously not capable to deliver such animation anymore. I think he is not interested anymore to work as animator.

His animation in Eva 3.0 was totally boring, it was all about high and wide angles, not motion.

He is now obviously better at layout and storyboard.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 13:13

Kazuto Nakazawa storyboard
http://www.mag-garden.co.jp/images/img_big_d03.jpg
http://www.mag-garden.co.jp/images/img_big_d02.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 13:40

Hiroyuki Imaishi storyboard
http://i.imgur.com/BVIqSuch.jpg

Yasuomi Umetsu storyboard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTzfsZqCAAAEkGO.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUcnlQZCcAERm4a.jpg:large

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 13:41

1963 - Tetsuwan Atom
(16 years later)
1979 - Mobile Suit Gundam
(16 years later)
1995 - Neon Genesis Evangelion
(16 years later)
2011 - Puella Magi Madoka Magika
(the fuck)
2013 - Shingeki no kyojin

The combo has been broken so fast WTF...

>>904
what shot imaishi did in 3.0 ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 14:09

>>907
Perhaps that's the reason for SnK being such a crap...

Don't kid with me!

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:54

>>904
His animation in Eva 3.0 was totally boring, it was all about high and wide angles, not motion.

I think you've mistaken Storyboard work with animation, which was not Imaishi's job for that movie.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:08

The comments of >>904 and >>909 are the reason why Imaishi is not a good animator anymore.

You two couldn't find him on Eva 3.0, because it was average!

The scene where Shinji pulls out the shere was animated by him.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:11

>>910
The scene where Shinji pulls out the * longinus spear was animated by him.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:33

>>907
>>911
http://youtu.be/-VnBuXQe_dc?t=6m1s

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:34

>>910
But >>904 is your own post. Nice troll.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:46

>>898

As opposed to what, some "God-given standard"? Please. You're just being pretentious now.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:52

>>907

Where's Yamato on that list? Where is Heidi on that list? Where is Nausicaa on that list? Why do you faggots have to troll this kind of shit? Get your shit list and shove it up your ass.

Also, off-topic.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:58

>>909

But that's what his cuts in Eva consists off - 75% layout, 25% animation. Nothing to them. They're carried by composition and inbetweening. Funny isn't it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 17:11

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b180f562bbca64fb57487d6d57c35466/tumblr_mu02aunh4W1rqyzc2o1_400.gif

dat animation!

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 17:41

>>917
sarcasm

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 18:00

Sakuga Fall 2013

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it's startin'

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-01 18:01

>>919
Kyosogiga

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