/carcom/ - Animation Appreciation thread #18

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 8:39

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Appreciate animation pls

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 19:52

>trusting Toei
HEY, REMEMBER SAINT SEIYA OMEGA

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 20:53

>>521
They delivered enough that a Toei show can deliver.

Two well animated openings.
Cool transformation sequences and attacking stock footages.
About 4-6 episodes along the way with cool animation. Including the first episode, mid season climax and finale (ep 51).

Mind you I speak of the first season. Episode 52 and onwards has apparently be completely shit, even stock footage looks horrible now. Since Umakoshi left after episode 51 its all bad now.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 22:11

>>522
Omega episodes worth watching, official sakugalist: 1, 3, 10, 20, 27, 49, 51

Same amount of epiosdes as Smile, less episodes than Heartcatch, more episodes than the smelly shit that is DokiDoki. It was pretty OK.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 22:54

Can these be called "lively"?
http://i.imgur.com/DlvZT8F.gif
http://i.imgur.com/NX5qutd.gif
http://31.media.tumblr.com/d823741cd3e5a3da7bfe63e5d238ddb6/tumblr_mteg2t4kye1rqyzc2o1_500.gif

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 22:56

Based Trigger
http://animationsmears.tumblr.com/post/61707740180

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-19 23:50

>>524
Of course.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 0:19

so, what does digital animation exactly means? they do all the animation on the computer? or they just paint it with software while the animation is still hand-drawn?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 1:11

>>527
Press button, receive sakuga

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 1:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3WUp66r66A#t=0m38s

Monogatari

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 2:52

>>529
Did you post that video to show us how bad-animated a Shaft show in general is?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 4:06

>>530
no

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 6:49

>>527
>the animation is still hand-drawn?
>hand-drawn?
Why do people constantly say this?
Are you suggesting animators now draw with their feet?
Such a fucking misnomer

Name: Mamoru Oshii 2013-09-20 7:07

so, what does digital animation exactly means

To give you a clear answer.

compare it to digital photography and analog photography.

It is exactly the same, only the format is digital.
While analog photography is physical, digital can not be touched physically and is in a virtual reality of codes.

Same for digital animation in anime.
Web-animators are animating in digital format.
They are drawing with their hands, but what they draw will be converted into a code.
But for us, it makes no difference, because now we are living in a fully digitalized society and we all have our eyes on the digital display.
So what difference does it make to animate analog or digital when your output is digital at the end?

Name: Mamoru Oshii 2013-09-20 7:07

so, what does digital animation exactly means

To give you a clear answer.

compare it to digital photography and analog photography.

It is exactly the same, only the format is digital.
While analog photography is physical, digital can not be touched physically and is in a virtual reality of codes.

Same for digital animation in anime.
Web-animators are animating in digital format.
They are drawing with their hands, but what they draw will be converted into a code.
But for us, it makes no difference, because now we are living in a fully digitalized society and we all have our eyes on the digital display.
So what difference does it make to animate analog or digital when your output is digital at the end?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 7:32

I'm a digital animator
Using tvpaint
and yeah , it's the same technique as traditionnal , just you draw directly on the Tablet and it goes directly on the computer

that it

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 7:54

people think Hiroyuki Okiura's animation is rotoscope.

ignorants, they try to confirm shit without nothing shit.

http://i.imgur.com/dvT4Qu1.png

I don't understand this.
Okiura really is a god animator.
It all fits to him.
God is something that people don't believe is real.
Okiura's animation is something people don't believe is animated.

They have never seen god, they only heard about him.
They have never seen Okiura animate, they have only seen his animation.

Believe in Okiura's godly skills or leave it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 7:59

Humanity will never understand how good Okiura is.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 8:02

>>537
Don't worry, Okiura has one so many awards for his individual performance.

I think after Oshii and MIyazaki, he owns most of the anime awards.
Iso is the other animator with awards.

Seriously, don't worry. They have all been appreciated for their works.

And don't even mention Iso and Ohira. They have one awards for visionary stuff.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 8:03

has won

not one.

Sorry I'm russian.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 9:56

>>536
They have never seen god, they only heard about him.
They have never seen Okiura animate, they have only seen his animation.

Hiroyuki "God" Okiura indeed

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 9:59

>>535

I though everything was still done on papaer but digitalized later

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 11:05

>>541

Some animators draw directly on tablets but it will be a while before that becomes the norm.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 12:47

>>541
you can do it
I'll probably us it if i get a better workplace and more money and all

Anyway , it's a lack of time
When you draw and scan it , you take way more time

When you draw directly , it's fast , and natural , it's lively.

>>542
I did my studiens back in 2005 and already we all was drawing directly on tablets
Maybe we were visionaries ? i dunno
Drawing on tablet is just a norm for me lol

To finish
drawing directly on computer is cool but you loose your paper sense , you should go back and draw on paper haha , also you draw slightly less better than on paper
I'm talking about BITMAP drawing , not those artist who "draw" with illustrator and flash ...

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 12:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=049tntARnuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ-CTjtzlvQ

what do you guys think

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-20 13:51

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Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 9:59

Just watched Free#7 and this pretty much convinced me that Naoko Yamada is the very best enshutsu and storyboarder KyoAni has. Hands down. I can't point to a single underwhelming episode she directed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 17:16

https://twitter.com/Animeblue00/status/381521309982674944/photo/1
Shingeki no Kyojin episode. 24 KA:
Arifumi Imai, Kenichi Yoshida, Akitoshi Yokoyama, Yasuyuki Ebara, Ryoutarou Makihara.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 17:42

http://youtu.be/iSfa39wF_8M

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 18:34

>>546
Tamako Market

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 21:17

Seoul Session's final episode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQRp5JSDVo

There's a small preview of his animation after the credit

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-21 22:19

>>549
Being a good enshutsu/ekonte =/= being a good kantoku.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 0:01

eigo preasu

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 2:21

>>549

The storyboarding in episode 1, 2, 11 and 12 was pretty neat and they were well directed. Tamako Market's problem was the writing and series composition.

Also this

>>551

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 5:54

Tamako was some weird self-insert thing of Naoko Yamada.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 7:29

>>546
She's great, but Takemoto and Kigami are better, especially for comedy. In regard to SB/ED, their episodes are the best KyoAni had delivered so far, just look at their Nichijou episodes.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 8:05

Galileidonna OP confirmed to be directed/storyboarded by Yasuomi Umetsu. He also did some key animation for it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 10:25

Kill La Kill is gonna start very soon.

I'm telling you, if episode one doesn't involved ultra sakuga, I'm out.

Imaishi really needs to blow my mind, because I have seen all his old stuff and I'm tired to see the same Imaishi again, I want Imaishi revolution.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 10:43

Will the Space Dandy has any CG?

It seems like they are doing full 2D on all the important objects and characters.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 11:16

>>558
I don't see any CG in the PV

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-22 11:20

Idolmaster Movie PV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVISfyKQrhE

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