Animation Appreciation thread #18

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Appreciate animation pls

>>399

This is even worse

Rememeber kids, it's only sakuga if the animator ignores perspective, anatomy and weight of the characters and doesn't give a shit about consistency. Bonus points for using so many speed lines and broken outlines as possible!

>>402
ignores perspective, anatomy and weight of the characters
Exaggerating =/= ignoring!

And exaggerating is one of the 12 rules of animation.
Trigger's animators clearly knows what they're doing.

>>400
This is not sakuga the same way that Kyoani's animation is not sakuga. Saying that it's better than KLK is fucking stupid.

Please go away

>>402

muh Kanada...

Why did Kill-La-Kill PV used 3DCG character? It's really underwhelming.

>>406
It's clearly a joke; the boxed guy is a one-shot character that will get killed by Ryuuko at the end of the episode.

>>407

You mean a recurring mascot character that will see the end of the series?

>>407

KLK apologists in full force.

all dat stupid KLK reverse trolling.

It's really sad that the sabuga community is in part the spawn of TTGL. It's disgusting how a style that glorifies half-assedry and corner cutting is put forward as a "good work of animation". Suddenly "cheap" is not an outcome but the result of a pursuit of "quality:. Suddenly limited animation is not an industrious workaround but a fetishization of laziness and lack of artfulness. Suddenly, a craft does not spawn art but kitsch.


The Kanada school at large a shit. Imaishi an even bigger shit. Arasan the shittiest piece of shit that came out of a rotting ass.

Jerky shit like Kill la Kill is as much "good animation" as hamburgers are fine cuisine.

It's more sad that Kanada wasn't like the "Kanada school".

There should be another name for this nonsense.

>>413

I nominate the term "Shitmation school". And I'll call its fans shit eaters, because that's what they are.

>>402

you forgot the shaky camera

Why is it people are adopting the shitposting mentality of /a/?

It is bad enough regular sakuga fans are looked silly by the rest of the anime community, but you people just take it a step further and make everyone else look even more idiotic.

I understand some of you love to shit post and will never stop shit posting, but for others, just take a step back and realise where you are, what you are doing. It's an Anonymous internet message board which probably has 10 active posters or less. And I know 9 out of those 10 are shit posting ironically, thinking they are funny for posting smartass comments, but when ironic shit posting becomes the norm, all you get is just pure shit posting.
As the sakuga BBS threads have been horrible for several weeks now, there is a reason why most people have moved away from this thread.

So instead of carrying on this endless charade of who can post the dumbest comment next, just take a step back, look outside your window, go for a walk, read a book or just go and do something else. It's just not worth it.

people hating on Kanada school animation

This this because Ben's blog post?

>>417
*Is this because of Ben's blog post?

>>418
No, I'm pretty sure he likes Kanada school (he mentions Imaishi after all) but those who simply copy and exaggerate with no thought behind it, like Arasan, he doesn't like. Lets just drop the topic and move along.

>>386
>>359
What the fuck is haikei?

Yozakura Quartet team: Shingo Yamashita, Ryochimo, Tomoyuki Niho, Masaayuki Kouda, Yuuki Hayashi, Gorou Sessha
Kill la Kill: Tadashi Hiramatsu, You Yoshinari, Takahumi Hori, Sushio, Hiroyuki Imaishi, Chikashi Kubota, Takashi Mukouda
Kyoukai no Kanata: Taichi Ishidate, Yoshiji Kigami

Yozakura and KLK > KnK

Forgot Norio Matsumoto on Quartet and Megumi Kouno on KLK.

>>411

The worst part is that it ends up as staff worship rather than actual animation appreciation. Knowing who the drew what doesn't make it any better and good drawings aren't worth shit if they look bad in motion.

>>416

I'm not shitposting. I'm just calling Shitmation for what it is - shit.

>>417

Anipages has nothing to do with it. More like, the recent surge of KLK shit eaters.

>>423

Bingo!

Point in case:

>>421

>>421

Kyoukai no Kanata will still be more consistent than either of them, and lightyears ahead in terms of character acting.  We're just arguing apples and oranges without even tasting any at this point.

>>421

>Yozakura: Masayuki Kouda, Gorou Sessha

u wot m8

Why the hate of shaking camera
The problem is
if you don't use shake camera , it's kinda boring ?
you follow me ?

so what to do ?

i like when it's shake , okay not too much but i prefer camera shaked (it's called the "shoulder camera" in my native langage)
Boring and pretty calm camera is kinda a pity sometimes , you see clearly but yeah...

and yutapon uses it , so he is a SHIT ?

Yutapon actually animates, so he is not a shit.

>>428

So if they don't use cameras it looks boring? That's like saying the animation isn't good enough.

It's depends
Some camera shake adds more

i'm not insulting people who don't use cam shake much
But sometimes it works very well

It's even add mystery and more "replay" value to the scene (you want to see it again)

I love dynamic camera.

But i agree of using cam shake to hide lack of talent is pretty bad
But people do what they can. that's life (animator's deadline life , soùme people here won't understand)

Nozomu Abe's animation can become unbearable because of his cam shaking. Sometimes I can't even tell what's going on on the screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JtkYFSZ-Mg

Wow,

this whole page has nothing worth a read.

I'm also leaving.

I will just open a sakuga forum somewhere where people can't go anonymous.

>>433

Nobody gives a shit. Why don't you just fucking leave without crying like a little girl?

>>433
I will just open a sakuga forum somewhere where people can't go anonymous

I hope it won't be as dead as Anipage's forum.
Also, there's the IRC channel. You can hang out there if you can tolerate circlejerking and live blogging.

If anipages forum works , why we don't just go there all ?
to make it revive ?

Or the guy you call "ben" blocked it ?(i dont have the actual link so i don't know)

>>436
People would get banned in Anipages because they love shitposting and needlessly insulting things, something which doesn't go in that place.

>>431
I think there's a difference between making use of the camera, and thoughtless shakycam that serves no purpose other than being untidy and obscuring the animation.

>>432
It's weird , i can see what happens in that video
You exagerrate a bit , right ?
Because i have seen way worse honestly.



Something i retrieved from old pages here
Any thoughts ?


YOSHINORI GOD KANADA - god of dynamics
   MITSUO GOD ISO  - god of gravity & god of working under different pen names
   ITANO GOD CIRCUS - god of fucking missles
   HIROYUKI GOD OKIURA - god of realism
   TOSHIYUKI GOD INOUE - god of perfection
   SHINYA GOD OHIRA -god of surrealism
   YUTAKA GOD NAKAMURA - god of action
   MASAMI GOD OBARI - god of robots
   SHINGO GOD YAMASHITA - god of digital animators
   ANNO HIDEAKI  - god of special effects
   JUN ARAI - god of KANADA SHADED style
  YOH YOSHINARI - god of Yoh Yoshinari
  SATORU UTSUNOMIYA - god of 3s timing
  TAKESHI KOIKE - God of very high contrast
  NORIMITSU GOD  -god of 3d-ish 2d animation

>>433
Leave a link, would be appreciated.

You can talk and rate about animations more or less only case by case.
Some animators hit the nail if they go for a more "extravagant" style and sometimes it doesn't work. The sakuga MADs aren't really a help in this regard.

The flashback scenes in the TV version of Birdy are a great example. Normally I wouldn't like it but it was so well intregrated in the general art direction of the show and it did even make sense.