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Animation Appreciation thread #18

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-01 8:39

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Appreciate animation pls

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 4:42

How are key animators ordered in a credit list? randomly? the one at the top is the one who did more/less cuts? alphabetically?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 5:28

>>241
Depends.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 8:31

>>241
From my experience, the ones at the top are generally the ones that did the most work on the episode, or in some cases they are the ones that are the most renowned between all the animators that worked on the episode.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 9:31

>>243
Pretty much this I believe.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 10:26

>>243

then why are Toshiyuki Inoue, Hiroyuki Okiura, Mitsuo Iso, Takeshi Honda or Shinya Ohira never wirtten on the top?

They are always below everyone else.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 10:39

>>245
Inoue got top credit in his Uchouten episode.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 11:17

>>246
In Momo too.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 11:34

>>245
>or in some cases they are the ones that are the most renowned between all the animators that worked on the episode.
This is only in the case for TV anime.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 12:42

>>241
it depends.

Usually the ones at the top did a lot of relatively easy cuts, the ones at the bottom did a few relatively difficult/elaborate cuts.

Sometimes the animators are listed in order of appearance of the respective animator's cuts (the one at the top did the beginning, the one at the bottom the last few cuts). Hiroshi Ikehata (ahoboy) used this kind of credit order in some of his old episodes, probably as a favor to sakuga nerds.

Sometimes it's ordered alphabetically.

In some cases the credit system changes from episode to episode even within a series. In Persona 4 some episodes had the key animators ordered alphabetically, in others they used another system.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 12:44

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 13:02

Indie short from "Nosferatu". Bare with the shitty animation from the beginning because there are a few really good cuts in this once the fight scenes start (as well as a few tokusatsu and mecha homages, for anyone interested).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZaCtWufpV0

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 13:04

SnK's KA list is a total chaos.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 4:15

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=400867

Cool anthology of 16 short films that I think most people here should enjoy (it's animation for animation's sake mostly). A couple of the shorts are very crudely animated (one of them, Unbalance, isn't even animated) but have a lot of charm. Yamamura's Fig and Tokyo Strut by Sato Masahiko and Ueta Mio are really, really good. Nuance and Manipulated Man were pretty interesting too. It's worth watching for these alone I think, and the whole anthology isn't even an hour and a half long.

Right now there's just me and one other guy seeding that torrent. If there's anyone interested you should grab it before the torrent dies. I'm going to seed for as long as I can, but I'm upping it off my laptop so it won't be on 24/7.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 5:24

http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/ippatsu-hicchuu-devander

The Kanada school has gone through many phases, and if Arai's work is any indication, it is now in its decadent phase. It's all carefully polished stylization, where the master was all about dynamism at the expense of polish. The style is just what resulted; it wasn't the goal. Miyazaki's words from 30 years ago about the man and his imitators still ring true today. To be fair, this isn't a new trend. Yamashita Masahito and the 80s followers were the ones who first pushed Kanada's stylization to its decadent extreme, with geometrical smoke and insanely detailed shadows. Arai just updates the tradition. It's not unpleasant to watch. It's just predictable. It was fun back then because it was like they were sneaking it in.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 5:46

>>254
Kanada style confirmed for old and busted

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 5:58

>>254
That's a lot of words to just say "Arasan a shit".

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:05

>>254

lel

it's true though, I have read the old Miyazaki interview about Kanada.

Only Kanada can be the true master of the Kanada style and make it look cool.

If Kanada was still around, I'm sure his style would have truly developed, but Arasan isn't really developing it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:07

I want to see a new style instead of a new version of an old style.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:09

Nothing we didn't know. I've been saying Kanada style animation is shit since forever, and even posted about it's shitty-ness many times in these threads.  Of course, there are hoards of people who won't let it die and then there are also fans who have raised this shit on a pedestal, especially since Tengen Toppa is so popular.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:10

I will put all my hopes on those animators that think different.

Kill La Kill ain't gonna be revolutionary.
Yoshinari style mixed with Imaishi style.

I think now it's really the time for a new era after Miyazaki announced his retirement.

He stepped back, it means that something new has to take the lead.

It's time for a new era of animators.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:12

>>259
But Kanada style is so fun to look at...

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:13

>>260

Don't put me on the hypetrain bro, I know I will be disappointed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:14

>>260
Lets see if Yozakura Quartet's web gen animators will bring something fresh to the table

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:15

>>261

Or boring.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:17

Kanada style animation is only good for creating interesting animation on a relatively tight budget.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 7:03

Miyazaki gave the starting signal, it has begun.

We are done with Kanada style, there will only be one Kanada.

We are done with Itano Circus, there will only be one Itano.

It's been more than 30 years now since these stuff are going, it's time for a whole new animation revolution.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 7:09

The anime industry is repeating itself, we need young people with different mindsets to step in and create original works.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 7:12

Who will spearhead this "animation revolution"? Anyone in mind?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 7:28

http://www.rpoani.com/eng/?p=1214

Wolf Smoke original film incoming

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 7:31

>>268
Bahi, and I'm not even joking.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 8:02

Dare ka no manazashi

http://youtu.be/mpwoGkKQDik

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 8:05

>>257
>If Kanada was still around, I'm sure his style would have truly developed

But the thing is, Kanada did develop. His work in the 90s as rare as it is is much different to his 70s or 80s work or the copycat work people did in the 80s.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 8:08

>>260
>He stepped back, it means that something new has to take the lead.

Please stop, Miyazaki has always been separate from the rest of the animation industry. He contributed little to nothing to the industry. Ghibli productions have little to no influence on what happens in the rest of the animation industry. His retirement will mean nothing, the industry will continue on as usual.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 8:23

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 9:09

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 10:00

>>273
You are a mega idiot and have no idea.

>>274
That's actually pretty cool CG.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 10:03



The anime industry is repeating itself


irony in the next post

>>271

Post with Makoto Shinkai animation that looks 99% like all his other works.

Dare ka no manazashi

http://youtu.be/mpwoGkKQDik

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 10:05

>>277

Shinkai is stuck in his 5cm per seconds.


At least, Kill La Kill and Space Dandy mix things up to do something fresh out of it.

Shinkai just keeps doing the same thing.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 10:19

positive feedbacks don't exist here


Is everyone really filled with hatred?


I feel sorry for all these creators.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 10:34

Expressing your dislike for something popular is more appealing than just praising whatever it is you wanted to praise.
trufax

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