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Mechas and weapons are heavily hard to animate in 2d
i wonder how the best animators do
If they use models kits to help them

>>957
https://i.minus.com/i7wSE8rlBAxWR.gif
There's something seriously wrong with the way her head rotates. If you can even call that a rotation.

http://megane.anime-kyokai.com/

Countdown to Kyoani's next masterpeice

Hiroyuki Yamashita's Naruto Shippuuden #322 was good. You could tell he has a good understanding of how to handle such an almighty character as Madara. The BGM at the beginning was full of despair, the part where Madara walks slowly towards the crowd was a good idea too. And not forgetting the reaction of the other ninja's such as the yelling. And Madara himself was very good represented.

Too bad that some scenes were done 1:1 from the manga, especially in the later part. I don't know what the reason for that was, perhaps time or that he had not so much freedom. H. Yamashita has potential, that's for sure. Like >>917 said, with great staff and budget he can do awesome stuff. Though I don't believe he can top Wakabayashi's #167. I hope that Wakabayashi will return for Naruto in one of the final episodes as ED/SB/AD and with the best animators Pierrot can get.


>>958
>>It still looks like garbage. It's timed like shit

Magi as a whole looks like garbage and is timed like shit. It's not really outstanding.


Another Yutapon pic:

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/795614685.jpg?1375274115

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/795614685.jpg?1375274115
Reminds me of Blade of the Immortal. I wonder if Nakamura is a fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsoTU5qhMMk&feature=youtu.be&t=23s

Takashi Hashimoto

Is Usagi Drop worth for the animation? And not only for the few seconds from top guys like Okiura and Inoue.

>>966
Is some part of this video supposed to look impressive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf6r19JIGRU

Yoshimichi Kameda

>>967
Nah. It's not bad, but it's not a show that can be watched on the basis of its animation.

>>967
It's very consistent with some nice cuts here and there. Definitely one of the best drama's/slice of life out there.

Soichiro Matsuda in MJP #17

Sakuga pt.9 - Hironori Tanaka: Surrealism for the Masses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mxUvBXeiA

>>973
Eh, nothing from his FMA, Bleach or Naruto works? Some of his best works were from those shows, I was hoping the presented would talk about some of his influences on a show as an AD as well.

>>974
Yeah, that part was poor. They could show so much more and better work of Tanaka. For example more of his "hair fetish" like in that long scene from Kurenai #6. Or cool action from a shounen adaption.

What do you mean with his influences on a show?

>>970
>>971
Thanks. Perhaps I will give it a try.

Man, I am so hyped for the Space Dandy announcement next week. Even more when the staff itself is excited for it's own work:

https://twitter.com/RollingPirahna/status/361126968915267585

Kill la Kill Starter Book will be "sold" (it's basically being given away for free at that price, tho...) at Aniplex's booth in order to create hype for the show. It will include story details, an introduction to the characters and world, a first look at the first episode and all-new art by the animation staff including Imaishi, Sushio, YOU YOSHINARI, Yusuke Yoshigaki, Akira Amemiya, Mai Yoneyama, Daizen Komatsu and more.

http://www.aniplex.co.jp/comike/no84/

And on twitter we have soon doodles & sketches from the Trigger guys:

https://twitter.com/Trigger_Tattun/status/363236633744654336


Just finished Welcome to the Space Show, what an animation feast. Such amazing character and effect animation. Can't wait for the next work from Koji Masunari and Masashi Ishihama. R.O.D -The TV- was great too.
Ishihama is truly an amazing guy when it comes to animation. Not only is he a great animator himself, his work tend to have some of the best animators out there on board. Not to forget his great directed OP/EDs.
After Shin Sekai Yori one can hope that he will direct more shows. A seinen adaption would be very nice. And with him as ED/SB/AD for some episodes.

Can somebody tell me which animator(s) did the chase at the beginning of the movie?

I think the beginning of the movie was a set piece animated, storyboarded and directed by Yuasa. I could be wrong though, but he definitely was heavily involved in the first chase.

>>978
Koji Yabuno

>>979
Nope, he did the intro of the Space Show

>>set piece

Didn't know such a thing existed. But thanks for the explanation. And it would make sense that it was animated, storyboarded and directed by Yuasa. ANN lists him in these positions for an opening, but the movie itself has no opening. Than that chase was the "opening" perhaps?


>>980
Hmm, like I said above, the movie has no opening/intro?

>>980
The same guy again.

Now I know what you meant with "intro of the space show". That part at thirty minutes in the movie? Yeah, that even looks like his style. I did not watch the movie in one go and had forgotten that intro. Sorry.

>>978

too bad the plot was terrible. but I mean, holy shit, horrible. a complete boring fest. on par with a tree of palme.

>>983
Yeah, I wish they would change the writer. Read or Die TV was especially bad, it almost hurt. The series was nearly on Hiroyuki Yoshino or Ichiro Okouchi level in the second half.
Though I've seen Nerawareta Gakuen this year and that was even worse than Welcome to the Space Show, but better animated.
When I think back, all the top-animated movies lately are so bad plot and script-wise, it's terrifying. I would really love to watch all of them but can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEStoWrNPc

Kou Yoshinari

>>975
What do you mean with his influences on a show?

I was hoping the panel would cover his AD/SB work like in his Ookami-san episode and show the differences compared to the usual episode. It's nice to see the visual difference when a talented animator takes charge of an entire episode.

>>984
Would you consider Wolf Children a "top-animated" movie?
Also I don't feel Momo or Niji-iro were particularly bad, just not very remarkable.

Am I missing some other movie (have to get around Fuse still)?

Speaking of movies, how's the Ao no Exorcist movie? Is the animation any good?

>>987
Wolf Children would be one exception, yes. And while Momo and Niji-iro were not really bad, they were simply boring. I didn't even finish these two.
I did not watch Fuse, but it was from the Gosick creator, so.... And the Blood-C movie was boring and had a crappy end.


Tanaka's part in Prisma Ilya #4 was nice. That pretty faces!

Sakuga Fall 2013

Kill La Kill
Space Dandy
Ryochimo Quartet
Kyousogiga
Gundam BF
Kyoukai no Kanata
Legend of Korra 2
Galilei Donna

My body won't be ready

^You still believe we'll get Space Dandy in Fall?

>>990
and like always, in hindsight most of these shows won't be anything special anyway. The only one that has the potential to be really outstanding animation-wise (as in: consistent high level animation) is KLK. Maybe Space Dandy too, but then again, considering Apollon and current Bones, not likely.

>>991
Why not? Animation production has been ongoing for a long time now.

>>992
Apollon wasn't done by Bones though.

>>992
>current Bones

Huh? If you're judging yet unannounced show by studio's current output, how can you be so sure that KLK will deliver?

Also, I see nothing wrong with current Bones. They're still one of the best studios out there.

Kill la Kill and Kyoukai no Kanata should be able to meet expectations. I have faith in Trigger and KyoAni. At the very least most of the shows here >>990 should have bits of cool animation scattered around throughout their run.

>>992
>>most of these shows won't be anything special anyway.

Compared with what?

And "consistent high level animation"? What are you dreaming about? It's clear that there will be episodes which will be poorly animated.
Besides KyoAni no studio do even care about consistent animation through a series. KLK and Space Dandy will likely have the most and best outstanding cuts in recent years.
The rest will also be very good, though not on the same level. That's all a real animation fan should care about.

And what is the problem with current Bones?

>>996
>>994
And what is the problem with current Bones?

The same problem current KyoAni has.

R.I.P.

>>997
...which is?

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