Animation Appreciation Refuge Thread #1

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Just watched Lucky Star #19 - Script/SB/ED/AD by Tomoe Aratani and only has 2 key animators(Aratani and Horiguchi).

I'm surprised.

>>921
How was the animation?

>>922

Interesting and fun to watch.

Lucky Star has a lot of corner cutting, which you might or might not mind.
Personally, I couldn't stand the stick figure background characters, for example.

>>921

That's because episode 19 didn't have that much animation.

Cool robot animation from 90s mecha show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk3k8LpPL6w&feature=youtu.be&t=1m30s
AD: Ryuji Shiromae
KA: Yasushi Muraki & Nobuyoshi Habara

>>925
Looks a bit Obari-like

>>926
Well Ryuji Shiromae and 90s Muraki were Obari school

>>927
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7648

Cool, this Ryuji Shiromae fellow is still active. Looks like he even did some animation for E7 AO.

>>924

It had as much animation as typical Lucky Star episode if not more.

Anyone know why Hosada decide to go with CG animation for the crowds in Ookami Kodomo. It's not like this is the first time there's been a large crowd in one his movies (Tokikake, Summer Wars). Did he mention anything in one of his interviews or something?

>>930

Tokikake and Summer Wars had CG crowds?

>>931
I think what that anon meant is that those two don't, so he's wondering why Hosoda went with CG crowds this time.

It's cool to use CGI with hand drawn animation nowadays.

>>928
Looking up the name in the Sakuga Wiki

Ryuji Shiromae worked often with Tsutomu Suzuki(another Obari style artist?) and Yoshinobu Ando - the last two had a big role on Zetman - where Hirotoshi Takaya was also quite active.

Yoshinobu Ando seems to draw Mitsuo Iso style effects due to being close to Iso and another animator called Tsutomu Oshiro during their time at Studio Emuu.
Oshiro MAD: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtp20p_yyy-mad_shortfilms

>>934
I've heard of Oshiro through his involvement in Naruto. He seems to be the animator of choice whenever an interesting cut is needed on the lower-budget episodes. His timing seems Kanada-like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RT7cC1RqZ4

Not sure if this was posted but various drawings of Dragonar mecha by 80s and 90s artists and animators including Anno, Sadamoto also Ryuji Shiromae (whose drawing is very Bari) Matsuo Shin, Hiroaki Gohda and many others http://imgur.com/a/Yf92k#r3wmJ5r

http://2ch.at/s/20mai00601785.gif

Sakurasou

>>937
Nice but that weird pupil size change thing is odd
Reminds me of Kou Yoshinari's Nanoha animation

Don't know if this was brought up at the appropriate time, but Chihayafuru2 ep. 1 was very, very good. Both storyboarding/layouts as well as animation. A couple of cool scenes were the one at the beginning where Chihaya was playing Taichi, and when she rushes to the door to greet the potential new member. Very realistic and smooth movement. Don't ask me who animated though, I suck at recognizing all but a few people's work. Will post the KA list if anyone is interested...

>>939
Been curious about this show. Seems Madhouse are pouring their love into it. They were posting storyboards and other info online for the first series, I'm not sure if they are still doing it.

>>939
Sure, I'd like to see the KA list.

>>940

They haven't updated with anything past episode 3 in English, but if you can can read moonrunes, they are still doing it. http://www.madhouse.co.jp/column/chihayafuru/index.html

I don't know if you'd like the content per se, but what is there is done very well. The first episode of season 2 was very Dezaki-like, from those more obvious very detailed still shots to the framing of the cuts and so on. The coulour direction could've been better (grayish colours/filters over everything, ruins the image in some cases) but in general the first series (and apparently the second one as well, so far) holds up very well. The production values are not stellar (there are still noticeable amounts of off-model cuts and such) but it kinda compensates for that with clever directing.

Hey guys, when will we be able to watch Little Witch Academia? Which fansub is gonna do it?

>>943
Probably in April, and probbly gg will sub it since they did sub the previous Young Animator Training Projects.

http://i.imgur.com/O4M8mFy.gif

I know you guys most probably have seen this Bebop/Naruto .gif many times before, but can someone explain what exactly happened here? I keep reading so many stories as to why they look the same, but I figured it's best to clear this up here. If I'm not mistaken, the top is Yutapon's animation, but who did the one at the bottom?

>>941

AD: Oodate Kouji

KA: Oodate Kouji, Kawada Izumi, Sugino Nobuko, Yukimura Ai, Kawai Sayaka, Shimoda Shoutarou, Kato Miho, Nakajima Yuki, Mizutani Masayuki, Takino Mami, Tamaki Rie, Masui Naoko, Maeda Yoshihiro, Koiso Yuka, Oshima Erina, Hirata Kahoru, Aoki Koutetsu, Yabuki Tomomi, Fujibe Ikuma,

>>943
April 8 broadcasting at the very worst, late march if we're lucky. Depends on what channel gets it first.

>>946
That's interesting, the AD seems to be relatively new. Did some in-betweens on Dennou Coil and Summer Wars, not a bad way to start.

>>946

Oshima Erina is actually Kojima Erina.

>>945
I believe the top is based off some kind of martial artist film.
I remember trying to look up this exact issue and the only thing I found was Yutapon was intructed to emulate Jeet Kune Do for Spike's martial arts. I can imagine he dipped into some Bruce Lee films for some inspiration. As for the Naruto segment, I can only imagine an animator was paying homage to either Bruce Lee, Cowboy Bebop or both.

It's so nice to watch anime with mediocre animation and suddenly sakuga

http://www.animeboy.org/streaming/ryuusei_no_rockman/ryuusei_no_rockman_episode_11.html

from 02:10, though the whole episode stood out.

>>951
That's pretty cool, seems like the work of Shingo Adachi?

>>952

yes, he was the animation director in that episode.

>>950
I've read about claims that Yutapons sequence was taken from a Bruce Lee film as well, but never have I seen anyone actually name what movie it was taken from. Also, can the Naruto segment really be called a homage? Looks like it simply copies Yutapon's work.

http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org4011476.gif

Who animated this?

I don't like this "who animated this" part of sakuga subculture at all.
If it's good animation, it's good animation. What does it matter who did it?  All this stuff is quick to degenerate into e-penis wanking ("I know these and these animators", "I can recognize this and that") and a pointless talk about lineages. This lineage thing is actually what is pissing me off about certain sakuga blogs. Talk about the animation itself for fuck's sake, not about the supposed "dynasty" of some or other animator.

But maybe I just don't get the joy in that...

>>956
It's part of then fun of japanese animation though...or at least it is to me. Given all the various animation styles shown by different animators makes them more identifiable, so it's natural so wonder who animated what. It's not just about appreciating animation, but also the people who animate.

>>956

Animators are allowed and even encouraged to animate in their own style when it comes to Japanese animation. Animating is only a part of the visuals in anime anyway, most of the people that really get attention and influence a lot of people have also done storyboards or directing. People mainly notice this when it comes to anime because it's still largely hand drawn and produced in Japan.

Paying attention to the people behind the show isn't exclusive to anime either, just check any blog or video on Youtube focusing on Western animation, particularly Disney productions.

I guess when people initially get into this hobby through a MAD they tend to focus on animators first, but you eventually get to see how important everyone else is when it comes to defining the look of a particular anime. At that point it really isn't much different to the staff in live action if it weren't for the actor's job being split between the voice actor and animator.

Jeffrey Lai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jMdZmZHjy4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zfq1eccn_M

Iron Man


Nice effects, still hate that bloom though