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Animation Appreciation Refuge Thread #1

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-28 3:53

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Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 11:36

>>438
Of course they have a budget. If animator salary is based on the time spent working, it should be easy to estimate how many animator work hours you can afford. Using that information you can set a schedule and assign a certain number of animators to work on that project.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 13:05

http://i.imgur.com/bvbnAHy.jpg
Shinsekai Yori #20 Chikashi Kubota, Jun Arai, Hiroyuki Aoyama

Staff list looks good, looking forward to Arasan's work

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 13:08

arasan is back

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 13:10

>>438

Ghibli animators get fixed salary?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 14:18

>>438
As far as KyoAni is concerned, the biggest difference a budget seems to make is the amount of advertisement the show gets. So comparatively, Tamako Market would be much cheaper with its announcement one month prior to the broadcasting compared to Chuu2Koi's heavy hype starting over 6 months before the show aired and tons of extra material animated for it. Other than that, they seem to keep a similar schedule for everything, which is why we get consistently good animation in all they do.

It's an interesting thing either way, since there's just so much misinformation on the production side of anime. You know how much people love to complain about shows "running out of budget" for certain episodes, as the money available fluctuated every week.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 14:27

>>445
The best one is when people talk about a show "having less of a budget" for the remaining episodes due to low sales.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 16:03

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 17:17

Budget for anime has always perplexed me.
When a show has an episode with more budget does that mean more cuts/drawings are used? But that doesn't always matter if all the drawings are shoddy. I am reminded of Angel Beats boasting it had 10,000 drawings in the first episode, yet most of it looked like crap.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 17:46

>>448
When a show has an episode with more budget does that mean more cuts/drawings are used?

IIRC, Gundam Seed had a high episode budget, but the animation was full of stock footage and was pretty unremarkable. There are other places that the money can go to, though normally a high budget/drawing count episode should be well animated.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 18:09

Any idea how many drawings were usad for the final Star Driver ep? I remember Shingo Fujii used 800 drawings for one cut.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 18:22

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 18:26

>>451
okay,it's a shaded...thing

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 18:36

>>450
I remember Shingo Fujii used 800 drawings for one cut.

Which cut did he do?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 19:12

>>453

The cut of the big enemy mecha taking off to the space.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 19:18

>>454
Ah, that explains the 800 drawings.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-15 21:18

>>441
So a higher budget project would be the one with a longer schedule? Regarding the amount of animators, most Kyoani episodes are done by 5-7 people, and on occasions when others come to help and the KA list increases, it's often because they're running tight with the schedule and not due to affording more work-hours.

So, anyway, there isn't a trustworthy source for an answer on this it seems. Thanks either way.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 0:47

>>448

Weak storyboard and crap digital photography/post processing are what I'd blame. Eva's first ep looks better.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 3:17

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 5:43

Kotaku is legendary
sakuga is done.
we are finished

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 6:38

Please don't give them any hits. You're just encouraging their retardation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 7:27

Say guys, this might be controversial to ask, but who are some animators that are douchebags or hard to work with?

-I've heard that Kitakubo is a bit of a pain in the ass, he got fired from IG and often badmouths things publicly on Twitter (where's its not polite form in Japanese society) according to what Raito-kun wrote about him.

-And also Mitsuo Iso, while not a bad person, he seems to be too much of a perfectionist and caused him to fall out with an animator (was it Honda?)

-I've read that Obari tends to be bit arrogant and it's what caused many people to cut ties with him or stay very distant from him. I mean Yasushi Muraki, Hirotoshi Takaya and Nakazawa Kazuto among others used to be his under studies yet none of them've ever worked with him since the end of the 90s. (Maybe a similar thing to Kitakubo?)

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 7:45

Koji morimoto ?

Arasan ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 7:58

>>462
Why those people?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 9:01

>>461

Yeah, it was Honda. Despite doing the character designs for Dennou Coil he quit early on after doing a little key animation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 9:05

>>461
That's what I heard about Iso as well, that he was pretty demanding towards Honda during Dennou Coil's production.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 9:35

>>463
I heard Morimoto was kinda lazy
I wonder how his fellas think about him working.
It's kinda strange to work with someone slow and lazy


Arasan kinda a joke
Since his harsh twitters , i wonder how people appreciate him in the industry

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 9:55

>>466
I'm not sure what you mean regarding Arasan, does he say bad things about people?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 10:35

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 12:07

bahi says that sunrise is also involved with Korra season 2 production

what is going on

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 12:20

>>469
Studio Sunrise will work on Korra soon, some Naruto animators will participate.

First Pierrot, and now Sunrise. If the rumours are true, this will be the first time there's Japanese animation for the Avatar series isn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 12:58

Most animators, like almost every artist, are probably assholes and fucking hard to work under. I don't say this to be spiteful, it's just a natural consequence of animated productions that will always involve a lot of different voices and interpretations that ultimately will need to subjugate to the Director's one.

Probably the only really friendly place to work in is Kyoani, since most people there have known each other since the late 90s.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 13:27

>>470
lel, baji was wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 13:32

>>472
Just like always, wwww.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 13:33

lol sorry my mistake! it's not by Sunrise, a friend told me that Season 2 is done by Studio Pierrot. (;;; ^ q ^)

lel

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 13:44

Looks like Ikuhara has got something new to unveil this coming March, could be that Penguinbear thing

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 14:56

>>475 I will meet him before the 23rd March so I will be able to have more informations, maybe.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 15:21

Michael Arias called Morimoto "producer's nightmare".

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 16:25

Ikuhara is going to do storyboards for Eva 4.0

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 16:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fem5y-TtuAM
Director/Storyboard/Key Animation:  Kigami
Character Design: Horiguchi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK1fLm4VrDA
Director/Storyboard: Ishidate
Character Design: Chise Kamoi
Key Animation: Ueno, Yamada, Rie Sezaki, Fumie Okano, Nao Naito, Rika Ota, Tatsuya Satou

http://youtu.be/y63DygviOE4
Director/Storyboard: Kitanohara
Character Design: Nobuaki Maruki
Key Animation: Yoshiaki Urata, Rie Sezaki, Fumie Okano, Hana Hosoda, Rika Ota, Tatsuya Satou, Miku Kadowaki, Takuya Yamamura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZyh5T6P-V4
Director/Storyboard: Ishihara
Character Design: Horiguchi
Key Animation: Hiroyuki Takahashi, Yamada, Rie Sezaki, Fumie Okano, Kunihiro Hane, Yoshio Minami, Haruka Sagawa

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-16 16:52

>>479
I always thought Ishidate did some key animation in the ad that he directed. Looks like there are some other Kyoani animators that follow in his footsteps with regards to animation style.

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