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Murder mysteries

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-04 6:41

Could /book/ recommend me some good murder mystery books?

My experience with them is very limited but "And Then There Were None" is one that I thoroughly enjoyed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-04 8:43

>>1
Lol I just read that.

I was convinced there was someone else on the island too.

But I think you will really like ``The murder of Roger Ackroyd''.

By Agatha Christie.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-07 8:51

Agatha Christie is the way to go, and the easiest to find.  Some highlights:
The Murder at the Vicarage
The Mysterious Affair at Styles
The Body in the Library
Sleeping Murder
Sad Cypress
Cards on the Table
Evil under the Sun
Murder on the Orient Express
The Mystery of the Blue Train
4.50 from Paddington
The Pale Horse

Slightly earlier are names like Margery Allingham, Ngaio Marsh, and Dorothy L. Sayers.  Definitely find Trent's Last Cast by E. C. Bentley.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-07 9:07

>>3

Trent's Last Case by E. C. Bentley - not "Cast"!

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-07 12:00

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-09 1:12

>>5
Matter of taste - lots of people like Sue Grafton's alphabet series; I didn't, and the few I had are among the few books I've ever been glad to get rid of.

Among contemporary authors, I'd recommend P. D. James, Colin Dexter, and Reginald Hill.  There are lots of different ways to write mysteries, lots of different takes on and developments of the genre.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-09 1:14

Oh, and >>5, OP mentioned a Christie title; so reasonable to mention similar period & style.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-09 7:13

>>3
You missed Murder on the orient express.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-09 16:16

>>8
No, I didn't - 4th from bottom, between Evil Under The Sun and The Mystery of the Blue Train.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-10 5:48

>>5

By the way, thanks for that link - unfortunately, Chandler seems (in which he is certainly not alone) to have misunderstood Bentley's purpose in Trent's Last Case (1913), which was precisely to caricature in a sense, and to subvert, the form as it existed in his day; to write, in his own words, "not so much a detective story as an exposure of detective stories" against the studied eccentricity and extraordinariness of detectives, and the seriousness with which the genre took itself - though in so doing he provided the template of the "country house" mysteries of Sayers, Christie, Allingham, and others of the English "Golden Age".

Overall, Chandler's essay is a programme statement - a criticism of that which Chandler found inadequate in a style of genre fiction, and against which he and others reacted.  To a degree it is also a document of its time (but criticizing the writing of a previous, pre-war, world) and of its place (American, not English).  It is also worth observing that some of the English writers were themselves aware of the artificiality of the genre and its conventions - look at some of Christie's comments on how she came up with Poirot, or at her character Ariadne Oliver;  and consider that even Conan Doyle tired of Holmes, and tried to kill him off at the Reichenbach falls, but gave in to popular demand and resurrected him.

And realism, social, or indeed criminal, is of course itself a style;  that has since Hammett and Chandler itself become the stock in trade of less good writers.  This is to say nothing against Chandler or his style, but only that what he writes is clearly motivated by specific attitudes and differences in matters of style, taste, interests, and literary concern.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-10 12:53

>>9
my mistake

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-10 16:27

Many of the Father Brown short stories by G. K. Chesterton are murder mysteries, some of them are good, others, I'm not enjoying at all. A best-of or The Innocence of Father Brown (the first collection) is probably the best place to start. I haven't read any of his other crime stories, though. Have any other anons?

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-11 16:46

I'd thought of suggesting Chesterton, but didn't for the reasons suggested by >>12
 - as with all short stories, appeal is uneven (even some of the Sherlock Holmes ones are not that good), and besides that Chesterton frequently uses the stories to consider a philosophical point, more than just as mystery narrative.

Name: Anonymous 2009-10-20 19:56

>>3
 I don't like the Poirot books. They Bore me. The first Agatha book I read was and then there were none which was amazing and now I love Agatha Christie. But Marple is much better than Poirot IMO.

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