now, should i bother with the other books in that series? which order do you suggest
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Anonymous2009-04-05 18:24
just go with enders shadow and leave the rest alone
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Anonymous2009-04-05 23:33
Read all of them. They are amazing and deeply emotional and full of expansive character development. If you already enjoy the world created, continue it all the way through. It is truly epic.
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Anonymous2009-04-07 1:26
is that a kids book?
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Anonymous2009-04-07 5:39
Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Pretend the other books don't exist.
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Anonymous2009-04-07 8:08
I'm in the same boat as OP. I really liked where Enders Game left off and am wary of ruining this if the other novels are shit.
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Anonymous2009-04-08 5:51
penis
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Anonymous2009-04-08 20:46
Speaker for the Dead, and nothing else if you value your sanity.
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Anonymous2009-04-09 16:24
>>1 >>6
This is definitely a worthy series to read. Look up the order of the book paths on Wikipedia, then read in that order.
Depending on which you choose (Game or Shadow), you'll end up with either scientific mindfuck, or Xanatos-level political intrigue.
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Anonymous2009-04-13 20:57
Avoid Speaker for the Dead. Seriously. Well, unless you hate fun, then it's fine.
I'd go straight to Xenocide and Children of the Mind if you care how Ender ends up, but they aren't really as good as Ender's Game.
The Ender's Shadow series starts fairly well, although at times it comes off as an copy of Ender's Game with names and dates changed to protect the innocent, but it's not bad, probably not the sort of thing to read until a few years pass and memory fades though. Also, kinda goes down in quality gradually.
But again, don't read Speaker for the Dead.
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Anonymous2009-04-14 0:59
I didn't really like this book; follow up on the others. It seemed too say-e, not enough show-e. Have Speaker for the Dead and will probably read it one day.
pffft, don't. Instead, read the Night's Dawn trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton.
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Anonymous2009-04-15 19:51
Speaker For The Dead is my favorite Ender book. Easily the best written in the series, but I recommend finishing all of them as they all tell a chronological, cohesive story.
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Anonymous2009-04-19 9:28
I enjoyed Speaker for the Dead and the first half of Xenocide. He ruins the series in the later parts of Xenocide though, and I wouldn't recommend it or Children of the Mind to anyone. I Haven't read the shadow series.
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Anonymous2009-04-20 5:27
After Speaker For The Dead it was all downhill for Card. Sad to see him now, batshit insane and pumping out Ender books like greeting cards, cheap things that slime the legacy left by Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead -- which were a couple of masterpieces.
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Anonymous2009-04-20 8:48
Just found out there have been two more Ender books. Something about Christmas at battle school and one that takes place between the end of Ender's Game and before Speaker. What the shit! This greedy bastard just needs to stop.
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Anonymous2009-04-23 13:51
>>15
Oh shut the hell up. The Ender series has always been shit. Ender's Game is about a bunch of Mary Sues that are the only people who can save the world. It's like i'm really watching Evangelion!
There's also the fact that it's still a kid's book no matter which way you look at it.
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Anonymous2009-04-26 6:10
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>Ender's Game remotely like Evangelion
>not knowing what a Mary Sue is
>Implying Ender's Game and Speaker For The Dead are kid's books
Ender's Game is a kid's book? I can't recall the last time I read a children's book in which the hero murders multiple people, advocates a final solution philosophy to resolve his conflicts, orchestrates a genocide. I can't remember the last time I read a children's book in which the hero's big brother tortures him for fun, kills and dissects animals for fun. Or in which the word "nigger" is used multiple times. Or which contains scenes depicting human brains splatt---
Did you even read the books?
I would explain Ender's Game to you, but you seem to lack the requisite capacity for thought. It is, in actuality, a Great Book. It is complex and rich with meaning in the tradition of all great literature. Consider for just a second that the title of the book may not refer to Ender's war with the Buggers. Consider that his "Game" might be something else entirely. Now remember the layers upon layers of games that exist within the book. Buggers and Astronauts. The Giant's Drink. The Battle Room. Demosthenes and Locke. Etc. There was so much happening underneath the surface of that book it would blow your mind if you sat and thought about it for a few minutes.
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Anonymous2009-04-26 7:05
>>18
dude we all know that it's really a nazi apologia disguised as a children's book but neither that nor the ham-fisted philosophical references make it any more meaningful,
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Anonymous2009-04-26 14:53
>>18
Yeah, just like Harry Potter! So much depth; so much subtext...
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Anonymous2009-04-27 23:15
read speaker for the dead, then pretend that orson scott card died and never wrote another book
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Anonymous2009-04-29 6:49
>>19
Look, nobody knows that. If you've actually read the book, and then if you've read that particular essay, and you didn't immediately recognize it for the paranoid batfucking crazy rambling that it was, you've got a tenth-rate mind. I'm sorry.
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You know what? There *is* depth and subtext in Harry Potter. Hate to be the one to break it to you. That is largely why it is good. Do you know what J.K. Rowling did before she wrote the series? She worked at Amnesty International. I'll let you begin to make the connections from there.
Do you know what is aggravating about /book/? Many of you don't know anything about literature, as an art. (Many do. Don't get me wrong. I'm not making blanket statements here....) Many of you like to read, but you've never given a second thought to the mechanics of story. You have no idea how subtext and symbolism and various hidden meanings are swirling throughout all of your favorite books. That's why you don't think there's depth in Harry Potter. That's why your soporific brain latches onto the first critical analysis of Ender's Game it comes across (even though it is an obviously wrong analysis) and decides it's gospel.
The really disturbing thing about all of this is that many of you behave as though your ignorance is an advantage. Well it's not. Now you know.