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Fiction s for delusional people who'd like to escape reality by reading about people and events which don't exist and possibly pretend to be one of the characters themselves (especially "fanfic" writers... ugh), or just do it for cheap entertainment since they have no friends to keep them company. On the other hand, those who read non-fiction (both true stories and educational books) tend to read to enrich themselves and learn and are generally much more rational people overall, and don't need a form of escapism because their lives are good as it is, and can get entertainment from things other than books.

About the stupid title- I only put gibberish in because I got the stupid "thread has already been created" error message when I put in anything else.

And that would explain why I never, ever see anyone reading non-fiction on the train, plane, bus, or a work break.

Dunk your head in a vat of acid, you dumb shit.

>>2
That's odd, I usually see people reading the news and other things which pertain to their own lives on trains and other forms of public transportation. You must be thinking of fictional buses and whatnot inside your own little fantasy world where everyone shares the same pathetic opinions and interests as you. And the fact that you got irritated enough to make such a childish insult is also sad, and typical of people who read fiction.

>>3
I don't think what you said irritated him but the amount of stupidity in it made him suggest to you to take yourself out of the gene pool.

I mean that must be right what your saying its not like any fiction author  every sold more harry potter books and became richer then the queen of England.

Oh yeah and experiencing different cultures and painting pictures of things that don't exist is all escapism to.

Honestly this is fucking america how many people do you possibly see reading the newspaper.

>>4
>I mean that must be right what your saying its not like any fiction author every sold more harry potter books and became richer then the queen of England.
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1. "Your" is a second-person perspective possessive pronoun. Example: Your grammar is terrible. You should have written "you're", a contraction for the words "you" and "are".

2. "Its" is a word pertaining to ownership/belonging just like "his" or "hers", only not gender-specific; an ambiguous 3rd-person perspective possessive pronoun. "It's" is a contraction for the words "it" and "is", and that's what you should have used in that context.

3. "Then" is an adverb which can mean either a) subsequently or shortly thereafter (ie "he opened the door then went inside), or b) prior to (ie "then and now"). "Than" is completely different. It is an English "particle" which can be used as either a preposition or conjunction. It is usually used to change the severity of an adjective. Example: a plane is bigger than a car. See the difference now?

I suggest you take at least a remedial English class so you don't make such juvenille mistakes in the future.

Honestly this is fucking america
Can't be bothered to capitalize your own country's name? And whoever said I was American? Not everyone lives in your sad excuse of a country, you cunt.

>to.
"To" is a preposition, I think you meant to type "too", and since that was a question and not a statement or commanding sentence it needs to be properly designated with a question mark at the end.

>experiencing different cultures and painting pictures of things that don't exist
How is experiencing different cultures fictional? Although fiction can possibly enable one to "experience a different culture", that doesn't necessarily mean that experiencing a different culture involves fiction, or reading, for that matter. Ever gone to visit another country *for real*, basement-dweller?

History books, guides for assorted areas, etc are all non-fictional and can provide information about cultures of all sorts to have the same effect, but without the added surrealism of fiction. Remember, fiction is not true, even though it can be based on true things, but that still doesn't make it so. It's really more like experiencing the imagination of someone who knows about a particular topic, or in this case, specifically a culture, rather than actually experiencing it.

Painting pictures is quite different, but yes, in a way it is escapism. That's not what I had mentioned in my first post though. I never said escapism itself is wrong, just reading fiction, which is not the same. Reading stupid make-believe stories is a pathetic example of escapism but not all escapism involves reading stupid make-believe stories. You seemingly deliberately chose to misinterpret that because you can't come up with any legitimate rebuttal. How immature of you.

Terrible grammar and improper punctuation aside, the points you made were all pretty moot. Once again, further proving the ignorance of fiction readers. You can't write well, you can't differentiate between various homonyms which have clearly different uses in the English language, and you can't support an argument. Thanks for proving me right.

I agree my grammar in that post is truly atrocious but that is just from the simple fact that I did not give a shit because the whole topic is idiotic and properly phrasing it is just a waste of time. If you however are so concerned about then of course I shall comply and point out that your initial post has several grammatical errors at all.

So your first point is about reading fiction and escapism. "Fiction s for delusional people who'd like to escape reality by reading about people and events which don't exist and possibly pretend to be one of the characters themselves" earlier that Escapism has a multitude of forms it can take and to impinge that escapism is negative trait you would have to provide reasons for why I'll those forms are bad. Some obvious examples of escapism can include movies, TV Shows, sports, traveling to other countries. Almost any form of recreation can be in some ways escapism which makes the term very subjective.

Additionally not every fiction reader reads simply for escapism. Allegories completely defy that definition as they are meant to teach a lesson. It is simply fallacious to put every fiction story ever written under the broad category of escapism.

On to your second point, "or just do it for cheap entertainment since they have no friends to keep them company" which is a broad generalization. Personal experience from the fact that I know people who read fiction and have friends shows that your generalization is not true in all cases. Also that there are book clubs (most of which are primarily devoted to fiction) seems to invalidate a correlation between reading fiction and having no friends.

Finally just as I assume you to be American you also assume me to be a reader of fiction and assume that post to be a valid example of my writing and cognitive ability. All of these are assumptions and all have so far appeared to be incorrect.

This whole post has probably been rather pointless since you obviously posted this topic so as to get somebody perturbed at you and start an altercation. You will probably just pick out some random part of this post and then start calling me juvenile or a basement dweller instead of discussing the issue at hand (which is rather inane imo but w/e). I guess I applaud you in getting some naive fool to waste their time.

>>1

You're a snobby asshole with absolutely no imagination if that's what you really think.

Yes, people who entertain themselves with various forms of fiction usually do so to escape reality, but as >>6 attempted to say, the same is applicable to any form of recreation. People do those things to kill time before their inevitable death. In the case of escapism, those people are generally less entertained with reality than someone like you, who, as stated, has the imaginative capabilities of a rock.

This isn't to say that there aren't people like the ones you mentioned, especially fan-fic writers, who (usually) disgust me to no end. And, yes, there are plenty of people who fall into the categories you mention, but it's stupid to assume they're all like that. I read fiction and not because I'd like to be one of the characters or because I have no friends, but because I think it's simply more entertaining that most non-fiction, with the exception of the educational branch. In fact, I have many friends who share similar views. And, the bad spending habits of a few aside, they're all fairly rational people.

If anything, people like you have an aversion to fiction because of your inability to think beyond your immediate surroundings. This isn't to say that there's anything wrong with people as drab and vapid as yourself. In fact, people like you are necessary to do things like work in cubicles or answer phones all day and regurgitate the many pointless bureaucratic rules that have been so efficiently pounded into your previously insipid and otherwise vacant brain.

>>3

That's because you obviously live in Shelton, Washington, and as everyone knows, Shelton is the most boring, retarded place in the world.

Now kill yourself, seriously.

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Wow, this person is lame. Non-fiction enriches you. What a load of dung. Books that are made these days that are non-fiction are made not because someone had a great idea but because they want money. I do not want to be one the characters in one of the books I read, of course I wish could travel as much but to have to go through so much, no thank you. Fiction has always been the lax ruler of literature, it's just that people like you criticize them thinking that they are just a bunch of compiled Grimm stereotypes. You sir, are slightly misinformed and I truly feel sorry for you since you never experience some of the great works.

ITT people fall for an obvious troll.

you have been eaten by a grue

Non-fiction enriches you. What a load of dung. Books that are made these days that are non-fiction are made not because someone had a great idea but because they want money.
I'm sitting here having reread this several times, and I still don't get it.

Are you seriously implying that just because someone wrote a non-fiction book in the hope of earning some money that you won't learn from it?

>>1
Truer words have never been spoken.

Misinformed opinions? On 4chan?? I DON'T HABEEB IT