Yeah I really enjoyed the Ender and Shadow series, the movie's going to be terrible tho. I don't think they'll be able to cast;
a. kids that act like adults
b. age 8 or so years
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Anonymous2006-12-07 23:54
I abore Card's Ender/Bean books, but I am loath to touch his fantasy works. Needs less Mormon wank.
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Anonymous2006-12-08 18:03
If you can read the short story Kings Meat by him. It's really good and memorable
ive read a lot of his stuff, he is one of my favorite authors. Could never get into the Alvin Maker series. The Ender series isn't all that great after the first book and the "parallel novel" that came out way later.
I really enjoyed his "Homecomming Saga" 5-book series. I never see anyone else talk about that one. It seems he is mostly known for his ender work. Card has some good stand-alone novels like Songmaster and The Worthing Chronicle (my personal fav).
ive never found the mormon stuff to hurt his writing. everyone draws inspiration form somewhere.
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Anonymous2006-12-13 8:00
>>7
FINALLY. The Homecoming books are magnificient as is The Worthing Saga. I also really enjoyed A Planet Called Treason by him a lot.
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Anonymous2006-12-13 9:16
>>4
They'll just cast a tiny looking 12 year old and he should be smart and skilled enough to act.
Ender's Shadow - Rox
Xenocide - Rox (Buggers and Humans living together OOOH :) )
Enchantmant - Kicks ass. Has some great battle scenes, reminds me of Chronicles of Narnia
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Anonymous2006-12-20 10:47
Sequelitis is sequelitis.
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Anonymous2006-12-20 16:20
If you really like card, you need to go and buy "Maps In A Mirror", the complete book. A shit-load of short fiction/fantasy from the 70's till now. Ima workin on a blog to get the stories reviewed.
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Anonymous2006-12-23 7:58
You fight like a dairy farmer.
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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Anonymous2006-12-24 2:47
Orson Scott Card is a huge mormon faggot. His books aren't bad except that they are too christian for my tastes, like he tries to make you feel guilty for basically nothing
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Anonymous2006-12-26 14:48
Card is overrated. Don't get me wrong, I loved the two first parts of the Ender serie, but then it went downhill. "Best Sci-Fi author in a while"? You're obviously not a big fan of the genre.
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Anonymous2006-12-30 14:34
No, I just have a different opinion than you. Big fuckin' deal.
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Anonymous2007-01-03 8:35
>>5
I abore Card's Ender/Bean books, but I am loath to touch his fantasy works. Needs less Mormon wank.
What you say? Do you even know what "abhor" means? If you do, then I think you fail at choosing conjunctions. "To abhor" and "to be loath" mean the same thing, so you should use "and," not "but."
'Treasure box'. One-shot, okay, but it didn't make me buy more of his stuff. On the other hand, I remember it well after years, so I guess that says it hit home somewhere.
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Anonymous2007-01-04 0:12
>>20
I read that a while back. The one where the dude is rich and investigates some chick before marrying her or something?
Not his best stuff.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 0:57
I think Card was trying to outdo Hubbard at creating a new religion with the second and third Ender books.
The change after the first book was like, lol wut?
The Books after Ender's game were meant to be seperate series, or at least so you didn't have to read ender's game to understand the rest.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 3:13
fun fact for /b/tards: Wyrms by Orson Scott Card involves tentacle rape of a 14 year old at the end of the book. HAWT!
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Anonymous2007-01-15 22:57
Enders game turned out to be mad fucking pwn, the sequels?, meh, somewhat good, but nothing special really.
I just finished the sequels up to children of the mind, but i actually think they weren't that good. Why, they drag out too much, like a bloody fucking extreme shitload of out-dragginess. The setup and everything is good, you always have the feeling of awsome and win lurking beyond the horizon, but then it turns out the plot twists away from the awsome and win.
The original book weren't actually that good of a read either. Oh, when i was trough with it i was in ecstacy, but if it would've been thicker i'd probably have laid it aside as it dragged so fucking much. It was like masturbating for 7 hours and then cuming so hard your cock was torn off.
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Anonymous2007-01-16 3:02
I just read Shadow of the Giant. OMFG OSC. racism and xenophobia ftw, amirite? When did a lot of the characters suddenly morph into nigra's? I have no problem with skin color being a mix breed(half white-halfback) myself but I do not remember at any time in the previous books their skin color being specifically mentioned. It's like when Ursula K. Le Guin got pissed off about the scifi channel changing her characters into whites, it doesn't fucking matter what colour their skin is. It seems like its a bit late into the series to show that your not a nazi, MR.CARD.
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Anonymous2007-01-17 2:30
>>27
Same here. This was also a big turn-off for me after reading Ender's Shadow. I'm sad to hear that it continues in the series.
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Anonymous2007-01-21 19:39
I liked the first Ender book and the spin-offs, especially Shadow of the Hegemon. But I found the books about what happened to Ender after the war really boring, along with the fantasy Card writes.
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Anonymous2007-01-22 18:08
He wrote the plot/story for Advent Rising, didn't he?
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Anonymous2007-01-23 19:03
>>30
Yes, that's what I've read. The game apparently had excessive gameplay problems and got very low reviews. Too bad.
Nobody ever "morphed into nigras," it had just never been part of the story before. It's important in this because it's a Catholic license colony populated almost completely by black Brazilians. That's why they all speak Portugese. Yeah, he could have made it a white protestant community or an agnostic community or Japanese, but he went with Brazil - and Catholic. The second part especially is integral to the story.
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Anonymous2007-01-25 5:01
27 here.
32, if you at all had read this thread and comprehended what you indeed were reading you may have noticed that I was speaking of "Shadow of the Giant" and not one of the books comprising the Ender Quartet such as "Speaker of the Dead" or "Xenocide".
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Anonymous2007-01-25 17:38
According to the ending credits, Orson Scott Card also wrote the insults for the Insult Swordfighting minigame in "The Secret of Monkey Island"
Read Ender's Game, enjoyed it, tried to read the next book, and couldn't stand it. He is really, really preachy, and writes pretty roughly from what I can tell. Less about the story and more about the message.
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Anonymous2007-01-29 22:21
Card is an awesome Sci-Fi author but, if you want the best sci-fi author ever it has got to be Robert Heinlein. I'm not just talking about Starship Troopers most of which everyone has seen the lame movie remake of the book. But, Heinlein has written so many incredible full length novels and collections of short stories it's not even funny. It's awesome.
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Anonymous2007-02-01 18:44
starship troopers the book does rock from the action perspective, but Card has a deeper meaning when he writes.
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Anonymous2007-02-03 21:55
Card is deeper than Heinlein? No way.
Read Stranger in a Strange Land.
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Anonymous2007-02-04 16:54
>>39
That was one of the strangest books I have ever read.
I'm guessing that was Heinlein's turning point, when he was starting his slide into the deep end.
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Anonymous2007-02-10 16:09
>>37
Exactly. Personally I'm a fan of both Card and Heinlein. I don't mind preachy or "racist" in my sci-fi (Sixth Column is way, way worse than any subtle mention of race in Ender's Shadow); I guess I just like the old-school style. Card has his thing about... well, whatever preachy message you get from him, and Heinlein has his thing about sex and pregnant women and chauvinism, but they are both still excellent writers. (Except Card is still alive.)