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Teh RR Martin

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-15 21:18

Just finished A feast for crows. Waiting for the 5th book to A Song of Fire and Ice.
Anyone recommend me some good fantasy content?
Looking for mature content, aka no tad williams.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-16 19:36

Ice and Fire, lawlz.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-17 3:55

TIGANA, FAGGOT.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-17 20:04

Steven Erikson, Malazan Book Of The Fallen. Up to six out of ten books released atm, the first five are available in the US now. Check them out.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-21 11:08

>>4

whats the book about????

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-29 17:04

Pratchett.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-31 7:38

I would say Wheel of Time, but only if you want to have your hopes and dreams raped like a two dollar whore.

Other than that, I'd second the choice for Pratchett, and I've always had a soft spot for David Eddings, although I really couldn't say why.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-31 9:12

>>7

Because it's formulaic fantasy done to the letter, and done well.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-04 23:13

Are the Malazan books worth reading? Im plodding through the first book in the series continually stumbling over every fucking name be it a persons, places, or concept. It had some neat ideas but its reading like if someone collected the text and story from MtG TCG together.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-16 18:50

>>9
The first one is the weakest one, and he wrote it years before the next, but books 2 and 3 are considered his best, and best of all are pretty much standalone. If you don't like either Deadhouse Gates or Memories Of Ice, then try Midnight Tides as it's awesome, and sets up background for the rest of the series.

I'd recommend them to anyone.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-17 5:26

Ill skip the first then and go ahead and look around for books two and three. thanks for the info.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-19 0:21

To be frankly honest, Martin has spoiled me for all fantasy henceforth, but I can still enjoy a reread of the Belgariad or Elenium, by Eddings.  Reason being, as 8 said, they're formulaic, but done incredibly well.  Eddings' writings are to fantasy what cheeseburgers are to food.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-20 8:45

Robin Hobb, especially the Liveship Trader Trilogy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-20 11:57

>>13

The female protagonist whose name I can no longer remember is annoying.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-20 23:22

Lian Hearn's Tales of the Otori feels a lot like ASOIAF in Japan.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-21 5:00

>>14

Malta Vestritt? In the beginning a spoiled, scheming bitch, but she totally changes through the progress of the book, due to the events and circumstances. In a very believable manner, imo one of the best character developments in fantasy literature.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-25 14:29

Terry Goodkind, TH White (once and future king), and King's Dark Tower are great.  But really I dont see whats so great about ASoFaI, I read A Game of Thrones and it was kinda meh.  But everybodys always nutting all over the series so I guess Ill keep with it for a while :/ 

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-25 14:58

>>17

You would put Goodkind over Martin? Eleven volumes of pick-an-archetype characters and magic-ex-machina over Martin's complex and diverse world filled with deep and multilayered characters? Goodkind has his mother review his books for chrissake's.

Perhaps if you read the following volumes you would see what all the fuss is about. A Storm of Swords by itself is greater than most other whole series, imo.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-25 22:44

Its strange how polarized the two series, goodkind vs martin, are. My friends who like one dislike the other intensly. It may just be my friends but ive found that the ones are like goodkind tend to not be as literary or philisophically deep and the ones who enjoy goodkind more do not read as much or think critically. The goodkind friends also seem to get drawn into the whole ayn rand way of thinking thanks to goodkind. :(

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-25 22:46

gah. i cannot type as quickly or effectivly as i think. perhaps some proofreading might have been in order also.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-25 23:27

>>19

Hi, this is #18 again. I too have noticed that Goodkind and Martin fans are often quite polarized. I think you'll find most Martin fans grimace when he is compared to Jordan or Goodkind, as he writes entirely differently. Personally I think Goodkind writes like a child compared to Martin, and a lot of fantasy fans don't know what they're missing by neglecting him. But I digress...

In my earlier post I neglected to mention my own recommendations. I agree with Erickson's Malazan Book of the Fallen series, as well as Bakker's Prince of Nothing series. Excellent cycles, both of which will likely satisfy the needs of a Martin fan without coming off as Martin clones. Good stuff. If you want to step out of pure fantasy and into some science fiction/fantasy, Martin himself recommends these books": The Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny, Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin, and anything by Jack Vance.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-26 0:26

20 back at you. I've always cruised by bakker at my bookstores because of the cover and titles. It looked like a bit childish, was i wrong? I cannot say anything too bad though since I owned like every dragonlance book made when i was younger :)
Lord of Light is one of my favourite books along with vance and the earthsea books by le guin though I think earthseas main appeal was how broad the writing was. the earlier books in the series seem to have the same appeal that ender's game had for adolescents. forgive for spelling and grammar, i've been typing up hw papers all day :*(

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-26 0:49

I wouldn't say it's childish, not at all. His characters are very complex and the story is by no means childlike. The only problem I find is his tendancy to sometimes ramble on philosophically.

Also, an Ice and Fire fan could try Martin's earlier work (Dying of the Light, Fevre Dream, Tuf Voyaging), though I haven't read any of these so I can't comment on them. I do, however, really want to read the Wild Cards series, but I can't find them anywhere.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-26 3:41

Wee, I've always tried to make vague references to PoN at /a/ but no one has ever caught on, or bothered to. I know he tends to ramble on philosophically, but oddly enough I don't mind. I've actually enjoyed some of them, especially the one in the third book between K and A.

So here's a second recommendation for it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-12-01 18:50

Tried reading Goodkind.  Couldn't fucking stand it.  Maybe it's just because I read Martin first, but everything from 'Sword of Truth' felt like either the same totally rehashed bullshit, or some kind of bizarre bondage fantasy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-12-13 13:36

read goodkind up to soul of fire. then i got pissed because it was like all the characters got turned into fucking morons. I've read martins up through crows, and didnt like crows as much as the rest, but ti was still a good read when it wasn't talking about that dipshit bitch cersei

Name: Anonymous 2006-12-15 0:48

I hadn't read any fantasy for a long time, then a few friends recommended Martin. I can't really say he "ruined" fantasy for me, because there was a reason I had stopped reading it. Anyway the only other fantasy I've successfully enjoyed since I read Ice and Fire is Robin Hobb, but not the Liveship Traders trilogy. (Haven't read it, withholding opinion, looked shittier than the other two.) The Farseer Trilogy (Assassin's Apprentice, Royal Assassin, and Assassin's Quest) was so fucking good that I had to read its accompanying books, the Tawny Man Trilogy (Fool's Errand, Golden Fool, and Fool's Fate). They're definitely not in the same style as Martin so I can't guarantee you'll like them but I thought they were fantastic.

I also read this Kushiel bullshit by Jacqueline Carey but that's just because I got sucked in. =/

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