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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-09 16:34

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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 7:31

>>399

video is private

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 7:45

Jeff Lai
http://youtu.be/ulqjNmSKJbw

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 7:54

>>401
It is now public.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 7:56

I had a 作画打合せ/meeting with Studio Bones animation supervisor and production staff- will be starting with the animations tomorrow. ( ^ 0^)b
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/324127907352043520

Airing soon?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 8:14

Probably something for fall.
Bones tend to have good schedules.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 8:14

>>404
Space Dandy, I assume?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 8:26

https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/324135657335312384

today, finishing my last animation cut for Koji Morimoto森本晃司さん upcoming project. ( ^ . ^)

He sure is busy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 8:38

How much does a key animator make for a cut?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 9:00

Kameda is Kanada-style animation, no? Not as much as Imaishi/Amemiya but more so than Nakamura...

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 9:40

>>409
Kameda has his own spin on Kanada style animation/poses/timing I think, it's what separates a good Kanada style animator from the bad. You are right to think he has slight more form and realism similar to Yutaka Nakamura.
I think Kameda also draws from that Masahito Yamashita/Early Shinya Ohira branch of the Kanada style where the drawings are sometimes loose and sketchy, where as Imaishi draws mostly from the extreme Kanada dynamism and Akira Amemiya draws from a mix of Imaishi and Obari.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 9:52

>>409
It is. Yakamura is not "Kanada style" at all, though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 9:58

What are the animation styles that inspired Yutapon? He seems to mix realistic movement with some stylization.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JN10X6VJo

2008 sakuga

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:11

>>412
I wonder. I don't think a style like his even existed before he came up with it. A lot of today's animators are certainly inspired by his style, but it's hard to say what inspired him to come up with that style.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:13

>>408
Dunno
Probably 5K bucks to ebgin with ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:18

>>414
A lot of today's animators are certainly inspired by his style

As in the cubes or do you mean more than that?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:20

>>415

5k bucks?
Isn't that like 500k yen?

Doesn't sound plausible if you ask me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:23

KA of Fuse Teppou Musume no Torimonochou

https://twitter.com/Animeblue00/status/324138087661846528/photo/1

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:33

Yoshinari has more copycats than Nakamura; Yoshinari confirmed for superior.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:38

>>416
I mean his timing/movement.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:41

>>420
Care to name any Yutapon followers?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:53

>>421
I would if I remembered the names from the MADs I watch. If you look around there are quite a few animators that are clearly inspired by his animation these days.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:57

The most influential is Hironori Tanaka because holy fuck monthly sakugamads are filled with people trying so hard to be him.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:58

>>417
I was talking in dollars currency
Not yen.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:58

>>421

Shikama?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 10:59

>>423
Like Hiroshi Tomioka?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:01

>>421
Yoshimichi Kameda admited that his style is a little bit inspired by Yutapon's animation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:03

>>424
I understand that.
Read my post again.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:05

>>423
You think? I can't remember anyone that gave me the impression he was trying to copy Tanaka.
His style is so unique that I don't think you can even try to copy it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:06

>>419

no, I think it's the opposite.
Exactly because Yoh has more copycats,
it shows that Nakamura's style is more superior and can't be copied so easily by everyone.

I love Yoh style too, no offense.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:11

>>425
Can't say I see any obvious similarities.

>>422
I can't seem to recall any despite having watched many MADs, but maybe that's because it's really hard to think of anyone pulling off an action scene of a similar caliber as Yutapon's. The way he conveys weight during an action sequence is something else and I find that to be the most remarkable trait of his animation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:12

>>427
That's surprising. The way his stuff moves is pretty much the opposite of Nakamura's.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:22

An in-between animator earns about 250 yen (US$2.65) per drawing
an inexperienced key animator can earn 4,000 yen (US$44) on one cut (shot).
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-09-10/directors-dispute-reports-of-poor-animator-salaries

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzLjUFb-yNU

Interesting bit of animation by Gosei Oda in Fuse

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:23

>>433
Animation directors earn 300,000 yen an episode.
On average, it takes a month and a half from the time that drawings are received to the time that the episode is finished.
This means a monthly salary of 200,000 yen.
These directors are twenty-year veterans of the anime industry.

Working in the same place as these directors are inexperienced colorists, making 300,000 to 400,000 yen a month
http://2chan.us/wordpress/2009/10/01/janica-club-blog-translation-what%E2%80%99s-going-on-in-the-anime-industry-right-now/

Hu hu.
Did they fix this issue yet?

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:23

>>431
Oh, I'm not saying there's someone out there that does fighting scenes the way he does them. But I think there are many people that are inspired by his timing and use of distortion effects to convey movement.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:37

>>435
>Colorists earning more than an animation supervisor

I don't even

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 11:42

If we go by how many people copy an animator then hands down nobody can beat Kanada.

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 12:08

http://ca-tsuka.tumblr.com/post/48045591202/kungfu-cooking-girls-2011-9min-short-film-by

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-16 12:33

Tanaka did say that his favorite animators were Yuasa and Ohira, and I can see a bit of influence from the latter in some of his earlier stuff.
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