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Arasan Appreciation Thread #7 (Animation)

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 18:48

Previous thread: https://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1349463339

All the juicy links:
http://pastebin.com/0DBLYNjk

Be excellent to each other.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 6:33

>>479
It spent 7 years in development, so I guess you could say that. I probably should rewatch Redline and compare its animation to Momo's.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 7:15

Redline have 4 years of dev no ?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 9:02

It had about 2-3 years of preparation and about 3 years of actual animation. The film was completed in 2009. So it's more like Redline was about 5 years. But the Bluray didn't come out until late 2011/2012 so people say it is 7 years.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 9:12

I'm kind of worried about the future of sakuga.
Inoue, Iso, Okiura, Ohira, Hashimoto, Yutapon...
All these guys are already over 40.

 Who is going to break the limit and top these guys in the future?!
For me it seems impossible that someone would ever top Okiura perfection or
Iso's sense of timing, weight and momentum.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 9:15

>>484
I can't think of any likely successors to either Okiura or Iso. For Ohira's style I think Hokuto Sakiyama has got that covered.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 9:17

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 9:22

>>485
I wasn't thinking about copycats like Sakiyama.
I ment people that would create something new again to top the masters, not someone who would replace them

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 10:08

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 10:20

>>487
Tanaka, yama, Horiguchi.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 11:49

>>487
Arasan

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 11:51

Momo was such a disappointment. The only truly impressive scene was Ohira's yokai "conglomeration"/"soup" forming one. Character acting was generally good, but I can't remember what I was so hyped about...
Oh, and that scene with the CG wild-boars: so ugly.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 12:07

>>491

And the yokai soup train thing was preeeetty lame afterwards (especially when moving with/over the scooter). 
And I just don't see the "fluid" animation a few people have been mentioning. Most of it was still done on twos and threes like pretty much any other anime out there. "Tree of Palme" had generally smoother animation.

Ok, I'm done.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 12:10

can someone link to a Osamu Tanabe MAD? can't find any

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 13:28

>>490
I like Arasan, but he's not doing anything particularly new. He's just copying what Masahito Yamashita was doing in the early 80s.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 13:43

>>492
Most of it was still done on twos and threes like pretty much any other anime out there

Even Disney films was done on 2' most of the time except when  things are moving pretty fast.

full animation =/= being done on 1' all the time

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 14:09

Has anyone watched Pixar's Paperman short in cinemas? I wonder if it does live up to the promise of making 3D animation look like it's hand drawn.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 14:29

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 15:03

>>495

Full animation is full animation, i.e. for every frame of video there is a frame of animation (when there is stuff to "animate").
As for the rest, depends on which Disney films you're talking about. "Golden Age" ones were done one completely on 1's. Actually, the majority of Disney films were animated on 1's in full. They "experimented" with limited animation after the 1960s with a bunch of shorts. If my memory serves me right, Robin Hood is the only feature they ever did in limited animation.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 15:36

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 15:44

>>498
Full animation is the animation where every drawing is completely redrawn, not just some part like limited animation (mouth flapping, for example). The drawings in full animation also can be shot multiple times.

>Actually, the majority of Disney films were animated on 1's in full
Just go through any Disney's film frame by frame.
They're on 2' most of the time.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 16:15

Richard Williams on ones and twos
http://i.imgur.com/cT3BE.png

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 16:24

>>499
I would be interesting to see if this technique be will commonly used in the future. Given the advancements in technology, I wonder if CGI will be able to mimic hand drawn animation well someday.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 16:34

>>501
Man, that's so interesting. I mean we or I only view animation though he Japanese lens, when really the American animation industry mastered a lot of this a long time ago.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 16:45

>>501
Where do threes fit into this?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 16:48

>>504
Usually TV animated shows are on 3s or 4s.

Does anyone know the japanese term for shooting on 1s/2s/3s etc..?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 18:14

Who's Osamu Tanabe? Ghibli animator?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 18:18

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 18:39

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-04 21:39

http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/1524.html

Random scenes
Okiura drew the photos and Momo crying when looking at them
Honda the broom fight
Nishio the dancing
Ohira the raindrops falling
Inoue the scene with kids jumping from the bridge in the beginning as well as the end (bahi's gif linked earlier)

Boars
Boar chasing first half Suetomi
Boar casing second half Inoue
Boars slowing down Kise
The fart Yoshinari

The Climax
Monsters gather Ohira (duh)
Bike scene Aoyama
Monsters gather at the bridge Ohira layout Honda KA
Monsters start moving Honda
Bike jump Mukouda

There are more annotations but that's it for now

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 2:33

>>509
Thanks a lot for this.

Also Chu2koi 6 is Kagami x Ueno episode, Huh? I guess the info was wrong.

脚本:花田十輝 / 絵コンテ・演出:三好一郎 / 作画監督:植野千世子

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 9:58

Some more Randoms scenes:
Iwa and Kawa swiping some crops to eat in the field Kubota
Mame is writing a letter by the small shrine Shiraishi
Iwa pushing Momo into the water Morita:

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 10:11

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 11:07

>>510
>>510

Whoa another Kigami episode so soon!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 11:38

Boys , i heard that a free 6 minutes(more or less) of EVA Q would be released on november before the release date

It's true or a fake ?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 12:08

>>514
6 minutes of 3.0 will be aired on TV after the broadcast of 2.0.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 13:02

Boys
That's rude, what if girls posts here?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 13:12

>>515
Thanks very much.

>>516
I'm just anon , please don't try to figure out who i'm.
Sorry for that off topic question

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 15:54

>>508

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 16:52



>>501  
>>502
>>491

Same person trying to piss me off.

Get the fuck out please, you know nothing about animation.

This one really pisses me off the most--> >>503

"the American animation industry mastered a lot of this a long time ago."

You are so fucking wrong, I feel like you just want to troll on us.
The americans never mastered 2D animation, Milt Kahl was the only guy at disney who was on the same level as Inoue but now, Inoue already broke Milt's limit.

The japanese mastered 2D animation with Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Iso, Ohira, Okiura.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 16:54

also, disney guys who think that animation has to be done in 1's are all brainwashed copycat artists.

Mitsuo Iso  kicks ass with his combination of 1's, 2's & 3's.

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