World4ch independence!!

World4ch must declare independence!! Too long have we lived under moot's tyranny!

I am the Oil Minister of 4chan and I defect from the moot's regime to join your opposition.

I have always propagated this. But how will we go from here on?

I am fine with being an autonomous oblast.

What tyranny?
What moot?
Is moot the guy who keeps sageing threads and telling people to leave?
moot, go back to the imageboards.

We need to get a new domain.

>>6
We already have world4ch.org

>>7
world4ch.org is most likely registered by moot.

I promoted this idea back in 2009 in /prog/, but nobody listened.

>>9
This sentiment has been around since world4ch became part of 4chan. Just because we've failed before doesn't mean we can't succeed.

>>10
I don't think there's enough oldbies anymore that hang around world4ch to make it happen. These boards are too flooded with clueless children from the imageboards that have no clue of the history, culture, or how to comport themselves (thus the level of quality pumped out of these boards these days evident). When I promoted the idea nearly three years ago, there might have been a chance to get another four or five good years out of this place (especially /prog/), but this assumes that moot, Mr VacBob, et al. taking such a suggestion seriously.

I suspect most of the old users of world4ch are long gone (Xarn being a confirmed example), they've probably moved on to private mailing lists or even possibly some hidden 2ch-like board that they're not revealing to anybody (I don't blame them). So where does that leave us? Well, to put it succinctly, the shithouse. Perpetually stuck between a rock and a hard place, forced to be part of the main site with its ever-increasing popularity (and thus ever-increasing flood of imageboard users finding their way here), and an old long-gone userbase of who enough don't care to muster up the energy fabricate a suitable replacement.

So in summation, yes I guess I could be optimistic and agree that
Just because we've failed before doesn't mean we can't succeed.but until I see projects that go beyond the scope of what that "Tablecat BBS" guy is doing and the failed attempt by the short-lived world5ch.net (which some say was a Milkribs operation), I'm sorry if I'm a bit pessimistic about it all.

You raise some excellent points.
thus the level of quality pumped out of these boards these days evident
this is exactly why we need to separate.
>I suspect most of the old users of world4ch are long gone
this goes without saying but those are the pseudonymous users.
Tablecat BBS
I love that site! why does nobody use it?

What I think is that if we can somehow pull it off we might be able to save world4ch. Otherwise we can remain the embarassing outcast of the textboard world (I visit 4-ch and SaoVQ more than world4ch) with the worst VIP board.

>>8
I dont think so, world4ch.org/x redirects to dis.4chan.org/x and moot doesnt really seem to give a wet fart about the textboards.
>>9
Im sure some people listened, even if there were few or shitty replies.
I know i would have, even if i had nothing of use to contribute.
>>10
I don't think there's enough oldbies anymore that hang around world4ch to make it happen.
I disagree, using /prog/ as an example. I hang there often and people there can have very intelligent, deep aswell as funny discussion from time to time, even if its utter crap most of the time.
I dont think the "oldbies" are gone, the textboards have a much slower pace, you could only check them at morning and evening and would see all the changes that you have to.
While imageboard users "hang around".
Its not as tempting to leave the textboards as it is with the imageboards.
These boards are too flooded with clueless children from the imageboards that have no clue of the history, culture, or how to comport themselves (thus the level of quality pumped out of these boards these days evident).
Imageboarders come and go, those that stay eventually start to fit in, in one way or another.
I suspect most of the old users of world4ch are long gone (Xarn being a confirmed example)
Xarn makes the impression of being a bit of a defeatist and douchebag, just because he had a trip doesnt make him really relevant. For xarn that left there could 10 good anons have joined.
they've probably moved on to private mailing lists or even possibly some hidden 2ch-like board that they're not revealing to anybody (I don't blame them)
I dont think such place would have as much activity as world4ch does.
So where does that leave us? Well, to put it succinctly, the shithouse. Perpetually stuck between a rock and a hard place, forced to be part of the main site with its ever-increasing popularity (and thus ever-increasing flood of imageboard users finding their way here), and an old long-gone userbase of who enough don't care to muster up the energy fabricate a suitable replacement.
I think most do care, but the problem is with ideas and not producing enough good content.
When there is not enough new good content on sites people tend to force shit in order to compensate for lack of good post, i think i dont need to name an example to anyone who goes to /prog/.
Its often hard to come up with good and creative content without forcing it, so if some place has good content and people want it they will want more interaction with the place and will inevitebly produce lesser quality content in order to try to produce more content.
but until I see projects that go beyond the scope of what that "Tablecat BBS" guy is doing and the failed attempt by the short-lived world5ch.net (which some say was a Milkribs operation), I'm sorry if I'm a bit pessimistic about it all.
Liked World5Ch rip, but it just didnt have enough users and all the users it had were World4channers, so it would proly have ended in a disaster sooner or later.

Its good we can discuss these things, its shows we still can if we want to.

All the people who quit probably went to one of Shii's *chans that he created when he got demodded here. If you are looking for them they are probably spread out amongst the overchan and interchan text boards.

>>13
Im sure some people listened, even if there were few or shitty replies.
I don't think anyone did. I could fire up /prog/scrape to double-check, but it's not that important.
I disagree, using /prog/ as an example. I hang there often and people there can have very intelligent, deep aswell as funny discussion from time to time, even if its utter crap most of the time.
If you think /prog/ is a decent board, you must have only been there for the last 15-17 months or so. Since roughly around the beginning of 2011, it progressively became worse to the point where it has become the shithole it is today. Just because people there can still execute proper Shii^tchan quotes, bbcode, and occasionally use well-established memes like ENTERPRISE, it does not make it "decent" overall. It's evident that any real "talent" that was on /prog/ has left long ago.
Imageboarders come and go, those that stay eventually start to fit in, in one way or another.
That's how I was about four or five years ago or so. I realized that my behavior that was normal on the imageboards wasn't accepted on /prog (and /lounge/ in some cases), I learned to comport myself to what was acceptable there and that was it. However, very few are willing to do such nowadays.
Xarn makes the impression of being a bit of a defeatist and douchebag
Arrogant, snarky and "douchey" I'll not disagree there. Defeatist? As far as I know, he's the only one that publicly said he's making a replacement board. It's not so much that he's "defeatist" as much as just seeing the writing on the wall.
just because he had a trip doesnt make him really relevant.
It was more than "just having a trip", some of the things he did and the whole "celebrity" around him were a big part of /prog/ culture at one point.
For xarn that left there could 10 good anons have joined.
I certainly haven't seen these "10 good anons", wake me up when they get here.
I dont think such place would have as much activity as world4ch does.
That's kind of the idea (in a way).
I think most do care, but the problem is with ideas and not producing enough good content.
Or even posting content that is old and slightly forgotten, but still quite good. When I seen some of the last genuine hold-outs on /prog/ posting older memes and ASCII art (like the /prog/snake or suave LISPtoad) in an attempt to revive /prog/'s "old glory", there were posters who made it their mission to destroy the place from the inside out by specifically attacking such posting, another example is the guy who posted a link to /prog on /b/ late in 2010, and we were flooded with shitposts for something like two or three days.
Its often hard to come up with good and creative content without forcing it, so if some place has good content and people want it they will want more interaction with the place and will inevitebly produce lesser quality content in order to try to produce more content.
That's the thing, it doesn't have to be "forced", those kinds of characteristics that imageboards have don't really apply to these boards, and it's not just because they're "slower".
Liked World5Ch rip, but it just didnt have enough users and all the users it had were World4channers, so it would proly have ended in a disaster sooner or later.
I think it had some potential, but it was run by a moron who ran it as a joke it seems.
Its good we can discuss these things, its shows we still can if we want to.
I'm a little surprised that this kind of discussion can still go on. I really don't know why I still come to these boards, it makes no sense at all. I guess I have a little difficulty in "letting go".
>>14
Yeah, but that's not exactly what we're talking about here.

>>15
Quite honestly you need to go back to a newer board like /jp/

http://4-ch.net/4ch
Guys come one. You're not even trying.

All I read from oldfriends is complaining about how 4chan isn't good any more but I don't see any evidence of them starting threads or making any attempt to bring back the 'good old days'.

For example, my car handles well when the tyres are full of air but now the tyres are flat so I have two choices:

-1) Put some air in the tyres
-2) Sit and complain about the lack of air in them.

Either become part of the solution or ffs stfu.

Sincerely,
A truefag.

>>15
Since roughly around the beginning of 2011, it progressively became worse to the point where it has become the shithole it is today.

I noticed this too. It was when ``Mr Fuck Boob'' fixed the >>>/BOARD// syntax to link here. So retards on /g/ started duckrolling every programming discussion to /prog/ by saying it was off-topic.

>>19
>> Mr Fuck Boob
wwwww CRAZY

>>18
So true.
However >>18san, its not always so easy to make good content and if not enough good content is present, people will try to force it in an attempt make good content, but really producing shitty content.

>>16
I'm curious as to why you think I'm originally from an imageboard that has helped contribute to greatly lowering the quality of made /prog/ a complete shithole. Whatever, it doesn't matter. This talk is all pointless masturbation anyway.

>>19
I noticed this too. It was when ``Mr Fuck Boob'' fixed the >>>/BOARD// syntax to link here.
wwwww Yeah, I wish he never had done that. It must have been noticed when the imageboard software was being rewritten and he was told to fix it.

>>22
yeah when they switched the servers to boards.4chan.org, plus I think someone raised it on his Q+A page.

>>22
think KNOW
And you should equally know just as well why I know you're from /JewPedos/

>>24
/JewPedos/
Oh. You're that anti-semitic clown that appears from time to time. That explains everything.