Imagine you are fine example of a non-sociopathic clever man (real clever, not internet or egotistical [hopefully!] clever) who has a special interest in manipulation and social control/engineering. You have honed your skills and studied a selection of knowledge from the field enough to regard yourself with some awe. You lack one distinct skill set where it is apparent, your general skills and 'cross over' does not work very well. You feel helpless, relative to your general power high, in this area. It would not be a problem except that this pursuit for manipulation has become an obsession, more than a hobby, over time. You do not use your skills maliciously.
This particular 'area', or 'proof' of your abilities, is the ability to position people. No, not figuratively, but literally. To get people to stand in a group, without verbal prompting and tricks that stem from that, but rather, more intuitively. Where people are positioned in say a room, when you enter as a group and everyone sits where they will. Without planning before hand (say, by allocating seats), I am absolutely dumbstruck about how I would do this. Would any of you ladies or gentlemen of my calibre or a higher order care to enlighten me? Those who do not believe such things to be possible are forgiven for their disbelieve. I would not believe it either, had I not gently eased then consumed in the pursuit of this game. If this post means nothing to you, that is fine. I won't be taking questions, which often seems to be the case when I mention this game , because I just want a discussion on topic.
OP, is it really "okay" to use this skills for deliberately manipulate energetical facts such as interaction between human-sheep and/or contexts?
hmm , it feels like im just opening my eyes.. and i am 24 years old now.. my whole life experience so far has been under something like a notion of total control and awareness regarldess my physicaly passive behavior... groups of friends, social circles that were created by me idirectly or directly , mundane ocurrances were egos and wills collide and clash around me ..
sparks
i can see it all even the slightiest detail.. i know what their eyes are watching and i know what they think. people is simple, you need only a second and his weak "tonal" will show him naked in front of you..
you are not special OP and you are not helping.. and i know for a fact that people like you ends up becoming a black hole
because this whole existence is based on symbiosis and cooperation.
english is not my mother languaje so .. ive lost my impetu.
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VIPPER2012-01-26 23:45
Sometimes I think I am Jesus.
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VIPPER2012-01-26 23:49
Sometimes I think I am special and have abilities to lead people to a better place, but often times when people follow me they are lead down a path of destruction.
More people continue to follow me.
I don't know what to do.
What people
Why are they there
What room
How big is it
What chairs
What are these people's relationships to each other
Every given situation requires specific details to be known in order to try to do that. When you fill in these blanks, what you have to do to achieve what you want there should become apparent.
Those specific details must be known instantly, at the exact moment your awareness comprehends that specific context. This process takes only a second however renews itself constantly. Your task is to be aware of everything around you at every passing moment in the eternal present flux.
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VIPPER2012-04-24 16:27
bump
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VIPPER2012-04-25 1:43
Heyllo.
Op here.
What are you waiting for?
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VIPPER2012-04-25 1:50
oh yeh guys I've progressed a lot since this old post. I really don't give up a fuck about anything related to power anymore (other than working onlaw enforcement and military and other 'extremely organised systems'...which are near impossible to work around basically. and i've got to be really damn cautious. Haha, but that's just for fun and to improve.
Now I'm kind of more interested in:
a) philosophy and logic and what not
b) mathematics and science
c) experiences, new things, travel, anything that might cause a paradigm shift in my understanding of things (short of drugs)
I realise that my old self was rather dicking and exploitative but in hindsight, if I never got through that I never would have got to where I am now.
All things considered, when your 'high on power' you want to explore your power.
Also, nothing wrong with a shepard herding sheep. I'm not a wolf in sheeps clothing.
The other reason I've given up on my quest for control and power is that I simply don't have the memory resources and what not to cognitifiy (lol) all the complexities of structures in the world. I could do it if I had a team and more people, but that means more danger and risks. Not willing.
Aurevoir!
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VIPPER2012-05-08 1:50
is there another place with this kind of discussion?
There is. 3 other places on the internet, from both the surface and dark web.
Sadly i am a poor raggedy man (and OP).
I will charge and entrance fee into the secrets.
1 is a discussion website, another is a guide, another is for 'resources and contacts'.
There are plenty of shitty stuff on the general net too which aren't much and what the average clever marketer or hypnotist knows basically.
For second best and free, go peruse research articles on applied psychology...or pay me with offering something (like information) that i can't get anywhere else.
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VIPPER2012-09-06 23:37
im bumping this because it's just incredible
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VIPPER2012-09-07 5:23
Easy. Surround yourself with money and famous friends. People will center around you instantly. Visit the same room recurringly with the same people. Structure relationships in hierarchies, the closest person will be seated accordingly to his rank. Communicate this so they know where they ought to sit based on soft social manipulation through action rather than speech, create unspoken rules thus. How to get money and fame I leave up to you who want to play dollhouse with people to figure out.
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VIPPER2013-01-08 13:22
where is OP?
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VIPPER2013-10-25 23:20
bump
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VIPPER2014-01-11 17:11
2014 discussion on this topic starts now
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VIPPER2014-01-16 0:10
Is there any place on the internet where shit like this is actually discussed?