Omniscience is impossible. Omnipotence is impossible. The two concepts are so full of paradoxes as to be laughable. School children can and do tear them apart. Trying to combine both characteristics in a single entity results in a death spiral of ridiculous scenarios and infinite regressions. Attempts to add in other attributes such as personality (benevolence, justice, morality, etc) are non-starters, it just doesn't work.
Apologists have, over the centuries, whittled away at their definitions of omnipotence and omniscience in futile attempts to make them play nicely with logic. It is to the point that neither omniscience nor omnipotence are out of reach of the human race in a few hundred years of scientific advancement.
The only way "God" could exist would be if there were nothing special about him. In which case, why call him god?
Anyway, if anything came along claiming to be god, it would be lying, likely with intent to manipulate stupid people. I would probably try to kill it, too.
Also, saging a superstition thread on a science board. Take it to /x/, faggot.
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Anonymous2010-10-24 17:32
>>2
Ignoring ominpotence for the monent, hack away at "omniscience" a little for me.
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Anonymous2010-10-25 8:04
>>2
Why is it that when people like you can't understand something it automatically can't be?
I guess since you can't figure out the mind of God, he can't exist..
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Anonymous2010-10-25 20:21
Two direct opposites can co-exist. Look at atom and antiatoms.
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Anonymous2010-10-26 18:40
shoot 'im. He's an impostor.
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Anonymous2010-10-26 21:05
>>3
I'm interested in this too, omnipotence is obviously out of the question but I'm skeptical that there are any obvious paradoxes to omniscience. I'd like to hear the schoolchild's argument against it.
Also, omnipotence implies omniscience is possible, the power to do anything implies the power to make oneself omniscient. Combining the two is no more ridiculous than omnipotence alone. Seems like a pretty poorly thought-through post overall.
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Anonymous2010-10-27 5:23
If the goal is to "know thyself" what is the contrasted opposition to what we are as in the human condition?
Mortal
limited knowledge
1 location at any given point in time
so the contrast to that would be
immortal
unlimited knowledge
all locations at once
If we AREN'T the contrast what would you call something that is?
GOD. A three letter name for something inspired to bring us humility instead of arrogance.
That's my argument, but my gnostic blood tells me that the true real God is something that I cannot even begin to conceive, this logical argument is just there to affirm my station in this life as a human being with human conditions and a human life-span. That's it. It's not to know God. It's to know myself.
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Anonymous2010-10-27 14:04
>>1
Be living in a world that would be *fundamentally* different from this one.
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Anonymous2010-10-27 18:06
>>9
the dream that goes unfulfilled is the dream that holds you down. Either get it done or let it go. Dead attachments are like dead weight and they only keep you from what you never knew you really wanted in life.
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Anonymous2010-10-28 12:48
God may not be a person but all of creation. Must get rid of the stereotypical fixed image. Though it is possible that God could be some form of being, possibly not a humanoid structure
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Anonymous2010-10-30 8:04
>>11
in Christian Gnosticism, the God that created the world is an imperfect God, a jealous God not worthy of worship descended from a perfect God named Sofia. I believe this imperfect God is called a demiurge. And the one true God is something we can't even begin to imagine.
It's fun to read about how Jesus laughed at his own disciples and said they were giving thanks to an imperfect God not worthy of worship and that Judas was the only one who could fathom what Jesus was trying to say.
Funny how things work out sometimes. :P
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Anonymous2010-10-31 18:01
If God exists, I would accept it easily.
I don't care if he exists or not.
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Anonymous2010-10-31 20:39
>>12
Yes, the demi-urge also more personally named Ildabaoth was born by Sofia, not a god but more appropriately just a powerful spirit, putting all of her effort into attempting to comprehend the great Unknowable Father and failing. (Humans, themselves, are Ildabaoth's own attempts at failing to comprehend the Divine Unknowable and are only alive thanks to the efforts of Sofia and another powerful spirit named Zoe).
That wouldn't change that some high divine being that can be considered worthy of admiration would exist. So. What would you do?
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Anonymous2010-11-01 17:49
>>14
All I can know is that I know nothing. ~Socrates
Who can every truly know the divine in the deepest sense of knowing in this human condition with these human frailties during this human lifetime?
>>17
I reiterate: it does not answer the OP's question.
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Anonymous2010-11-08 22:21
>>18
Listen, I came down the ladder to give you this, the least you could do is come up it and take it from me unless you prefer to be ungrateful. Your choice.
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Anonymous2010-11-09 17:56
How would you find God if you don't know what you are looking for?
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I see the presence of God during the miracle of birth. So we should just abort or kill all babies.
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Anonymous2010-11-13 11:50
What if he is a human, running around getting really pissed by all the idiots and assholes he gave freewill, waiting until he dies so he can start breaking teh rules.
I'd steal Adam and keep him sealed deep underground next to Tokyo with a super highly advanced city above him. The city would be able to retract into the ground when danger approached and I would capture the few angels that attempted to attack us. Then I would use them to create giant robots and force children to pilot them and fight back against the angels. Then in the end I would break down the psychic barrier that separates all of humanity into individuals and cause us all to melt into one. At least, until my son decides not to and the world starts over.
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Anonymous2010-11-27 8:57
>>28
This place wouldn't happen to be called Nergal, would it? :/
"Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker,
those who are nothing but potsherds
among the potsherds on the ground.
Does the clay say to the potter,
‘What are you making?’
Does your work say,
‘The potter has no hands’?"