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Name: Anonymous 2009-09-03 3:04

Y = {x||x|||P(x)|}

P(x) is the power set.



Describe Y.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 16:03

>>6
I didn't think about the difference between sets and classes when writing >>4, so you made a good point. I don't think you're entirely correct though (assuming ZFC):

For each set A one can form the set {A} with 1 (a power of 2) element. So Y contains a proper class and hence isn't a set.
Because of the axiom of pairing - \forall x \forall y \exist z (x \in z \land y \in z) - if A is a set, so is {A}.

Additionally, Y contains only elements on which the power set operator is defined, and the power operation is defined only on sets, so Y can never contain a proper class.

Still, you're probably correct in Y being a proper class, for other reasons.

(Note that I'm not a set theorist either)

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