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Physics help?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-24 22:53

A particle has the wave function:
Phi(r) = N*(e^(−a r))
where N and a are constants

I worked out previously that N=sqrt(a^3/pi)

The question is: find the expectation value of x

I also know x = rsin(theta)cos(phi) (where phi is a little phi not a capital phi as before, i.e. they different)
y = rsin(theta)sin(phi)
z=rcos(theta)
and dV = r^2dr sin(theta)d(theta)d(phi)

My attempt:
I assume this is no different from usual ways of finding <x> in that you use phi* (x) phi, I tried using a triple integral and substituting x=rsin(theta)cos(phi) in but couldn't make it work, so perhaps this idea is wrong?? (I ended up integrating over 0), anyway, help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 1:37

This seems like a problem with the boundary conditions you've chosen for the spherical coordinates.

I'm thinking r: [0,r], theta: [0, 2pi], small phi: [0, pi], but it's been a while since I've done elementary quantum physics.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 1:45

Sorry, should have given the boundary coinditions to begin with:

r: [0, infinty)
Theta: [0, pi]
Small phi [0, 2pi)

So when I integrate over small phi, I get Sin(2 pi), which is zero, and hence buggers everything up...

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 1:49

Check your textbook to see that you're choosing the boundary conditions properly. You are calculating the expectation as integral(x*phistar*phi), right?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 2:10

Yeah, and I'm subbing in rsin(theta)cos(phi)for the x.

Basically, I did three pages of a triple integral, and when I got to integrating in terms of small phi, between 0 and 2pi, the term Cos (small phi)I got zero, which leads me to thinking that the triple integral may not be the way forward.

Name: 4tran 2009-02-25 5:02

Maybe the answer really is 0?

You have a spherically symmetric wave function -> all its position/momentum expectation values are 0.

integral(x phi* phi) x0 -> x0 + dx =
- integral(x phi* phi) -x0 -> -x0 -dx

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-25 6:12

@6

You're right.

I wasw just expecting the question to be harder than it actually was... I have a fear of QM or something!

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