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A failing is 50?

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-20 18:23

In most math problems, zero would never be confused with 50, but a handful of schools nationwide have set off an emotional academic debate by giving minimum scores of 50 for students who fail.

Officials in schools from Las Vegas to Dallas to Port Byron, N.Y., have proposed or implemented versions of such a policy, with varying results.
Their argument: Other letter grades — A, B, C and D — are broken down in increments of 10 from 60 to 100, but there is a 59-point spread between D and F, a gap that can often make it mathematically impossible for some failing students to ever catch up.

"It's a classic mathematical dilemma: that the students have a six times greater chance of getting an F," says Douglas Reeves, founder of The Leadership and Learning Center, a Colorado-based educational think tank who has written on the topic. "The statistical tweak of saying the F is now 50 instead of zero is a tiny part of how we can have better grading practices to encourage student performance."
But opponents say the larger gap between D and F exists because passing requires a minimum competency of understanding at least 60% of the material. Handing out more credit than a student has earned is grade inflation, says Ed Fields, founder of HotChalk.com, a site for teachers and parents: "I certainly don't want to teach my children that no effort is going to get them half the way there."

Schools have taken a variety of approaches:

• In Hillsboro, Ore., the school district is planning to roll out such a policy slowly. School board member Hugh O'Donnell says he hopes it is implemented within a couple of years "once we educate the teachers."

• The Dallas Independent School District has a policy not to allow semester grades below a 50. One principal's decision to disallow grades below a 70 in certain instances drew protests this spring and was rescinded.

• At Lehn Middle School in Port Byron, N.Y., the teachers turn in numerical averages from zero to 100 for report cards, and a computer program rounds up anything below a 50, following principal Sally Feinberg's policy. "An F is an F, and 50 is still not passing," Feinberg says. "The point is motivation and to give kids the opportunity to pass a grade."

A top proponent of a minimum-50 policy, Thomas Guskey of Georgetown College in Kentucky, acknowledges that there are no studies he knows of that examine whether such approaches increase passing rates.

"Oftentimes, when schools go to this policy, a major component of doing so is a significant parent training program," Guskey says. "That makes it hard to tell if it's anything the school did, or maybe by informing parents, they become more conscientious."


I wish I could tell my employer "I'm not coming in today" and still receive 50% of My Paycheck.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-20 20:27

god damnit

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-20 22:51

this story has legs, mark my words

Name: 4tran 2008-05-20 22:58

Or just give the kid exactly the credit he earned.  He turns in 0 homeworks, and got a 0 on all the exams -> he gets a 0!  He does half of everything -> he gets a 50!  Wow, was that ever so hard to conceive of!

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-21 0:03

I think halfway there should be an A.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-21 7:41

lol

>In most math problems, zero would never be confused with 50

Sarcasm is defeated by modular arithmetic.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-21 10:37

>>6

lol exactly what I was thinking.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-21 13:12

>>6,>>7
Yeah, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking too, guys!!

Wanna get together for coffee and buttsex?

Name: Poet-san 2008-05-22 15:17

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Name: Anonymous 2008-05-22 23:22

/r9k/ is that way -->

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 1:59

This is yet another PC attempt to dumb down American education and hide the vast intellectual gulf that exists between Humans and niggers.  This has been going on since Brown vs. Board of Education.

They're playing the same games with the SAT score calculations too.

Jimmy gets a score of 1450 on his SAT.  Rastus gets 800.  Now in many states they're cutting the SAT score in half and giving everybody 800 self-esteem-for-showing-up-and-trying A-for-effort points.

Now Jimmy gets 1525 points on his SAT, but Rastus gets 1200.  The SAT gap on this evil RAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST test has been reduced from 650 points to 325!  BLACK AMERICA IS ON THE MARCH!  Education reform is succeeding!  We're cutting down the educational performance gap!  YAYYYY let's all celebrate Martin Loofer Koon Day!

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 12:01

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2008/05/stupid_grading_tricks.php#more

The only thing mainstream media is worse at reporing on than science is math.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 14:55

>>12
I don't get why the author in that blog thinks that teachers would ever only record letter grades for assignments or time blocks and then try to average the letters.  No one would try to grade like that.  You always keep underlying numbers on hand, and if you want a letter grade, then you translate the number to a letter grade.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 15:51

>>13

I don't think that's what he's advocating that at all, he's just saying that's a way of grading.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 22:45

>>14
I didn't say he was advocating that.  He thinks that's how letter grades might actually be used, but that's now how they are used, so why even should he say such a thing.

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-23 22:46

fuckin typo, please edit #15, replace "now" with "not"

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-24 0:33

>>16
now

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-24 5:33

>>17
yes, that's right, replace "now".

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