>>16
The premises come from believers' own definitions of the concept and the suppossed inerrancy of the doctrinal texts. WIthout a reason to believe in something, there is no reason to have a religion in the first place.
>>18
All the disproofs do is show that these ideas are illogical. You can continue to hold onto them if you please, but now you know you are believing in something that cannot possibly exist. If something really is truly outside our ability to define with logic and reason, it falls outside the natural world and then you fall back into the whole supernatural shitstorm.