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There is no God, But There Are Kings

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-23 22:18

Ladies and gentlemen, there is a disturbing trend in atheism today of which stems from the shortsighted outlook of many atheists as to how to defeat “them”.  Every pro-atheist book, article, and discussion I have read boils down to proving to the zealots of religion how wrong they are.  This action is a waste of time and energy to the cause of atheism.  Instead of telling the ignorant masses that God is an illusion, we should be telling them how real Mankind is.

Religion was created to answer man’s then unanswered questions and to set down rules for a productive society.  Science has reached point that can answer any question one has about one’s past, present, and future.  We are now left with a series of archaic laws that have no basis in real life and cause nothing but oppression in society.  Those who continue to believe in a religion burden themselves with unnecessary restraints on their lifestyle.  Dogma orders people what to eat, what to wear, whom they should marry, whom they must hate.  But Atheism takes away such limiters on a person, providing an infinite amount of choices as how one lives his or her life as they see fit.

The question before all atheists is why do you continue to live, think, and argue like the religious person?  How about becoming better than them by taking the path that they cannot?  Atheists should not bother to argue with the religious man.  They cannot be swayed from their blind path as much as you cannot be swayed from yours. The effort you make arguing with others about the benefits of a God free society could be better spent into improving yourself as a leader they will gladly follow later in life.

If evolution has taught us anything, it the fact that survival goes to the strongest.  Thankfully, man’s knowledge of science and technology has removed his basic need for food, shelter, and clothing. In today’s modern society, we face a new kind of survival of the fittest. A man or woman must struggle against the others of the human race in order to fulfill their desires for a productive life. We, atheist and religious alike, fight for our right to have the most desirable mate, to have the grandest house, and to obtain more material wealth.  This is basic animal instinct.  But what about when your path to your desires is blocked by another who is physically and mentally your equal or greater?

The answer lies in taking advantage of the spiritual weakness of your opponent.

Ultimate moral authority does not bind atheism. A man who does not believe in God has more choices to his problems than a religious man.  If to get by in life an atheist has to lie to friend as to where he has been, he does so without regret.  If an atheist steals a loaf of bread to feed himself another day, then he will do it without hesitation.  If a desirable woman turns down an atheist to engage in sex, he will force himself on her and impregnate her.  If an atheist quarrels with another man over possessions and there is not a desirable settlement, the atheist will kill other man and take all of his possessions.

Does this seem repulsive?  That’s because religion has warped even the typical atheist’s way of thinking by inventing the abstract concepts “good” and “evil”.  Thou shall not kill, thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s wife, thou shall no bear false witness, etc…  These rules have been hammered into our heads since birth. But without God, these rules have no basis in the way the world really works. Organisms kill, get greedy, and deceive all the time in nature.  Why should man put a limit to those qualities that are beneficial for his survival?

So I ask again to all atheists out there, why are you thinking and living your life within the boundaries of a religious person?  Cheat, steal, and kill more to succeed in life.  A true atheist would stop in their climb for personal growth because there will be always one person better that you must overcome.  And yes, there are laws, created by the believers, which punish people who do “bad things” in life.  But the system punishes only those who get caught.  So, if one is committing an act that the religious society deems “wrong” don’t be caught doing it.

With a bit of planning and caution, there is nothing stopping an atheist from doing what he or she deems necessary to fulfill their desires.  The only moral authority they must answer to is themselves.  By doing so, an Atheist becomes a king among men and rules over others.  And thus shall the end of religion come, not by an argument, but by a command.

Name: Krieger 2007-11-27 20:27

Alright, here's my opinion.....
I'll begin with the basis of religion. Darwin's basic rule is "survival of the fittest", and everyone knows that.  But this is not survival of a single species, it's the survival of a race. Now, think of religion as the gene in a species which allowed stability and order to dominate over anarchy and chaos.  This allowed those who adopted theism to live longer, reproduce more, and prosper overall.  As such, you can think of the basic morality and ethics which come from the bible as a way of ensuring the stability.  This is enforced over our more primal genes by using these genes against themselves.  Fear of a higher spirit compels these genes to fight against what they were designed to do in order to create a society in which people work together.

Now, in saying this, I am not disagreeing with you. There is nothing wrong with people doing what they wish for personal growth. It is only up to the individual to decide what will fill their life and make living worthwhile.  For you, for instance, it seems to be gloating intelligence and making others believe what you have to say.  There's nothing wrong with that, for my goals are along the same lines.  But for the religious, it may fill them to be so, because religion was designed for that purpose.  It fills people's lives so that it seems insane  to them to do anything else other than that.

This all being said, it simply come down to what is best for the species versus what is 'best' for the individual.  What is best for the species is for it to flourish with cooperation, while what is best for the individual is normally quite the opposite of that which is best for society.  Thus, a war erupts.  The despotism which is best for the species fights with the anarchy which is best for the individual, resulting in the stalemate of democracy.  This occurs with religion, as well, as people who are religious cease to consider the individual with promises of an eternal afterlife, while those who's more primal genes became more dominant whether it be through breeding or circumstance. These freed people then become closer on the spectrum to atheism, whether it be by becoming less devout theists, becoming agnostics, or refusing to accept any religion.  No choices of this sort are right or wrong, merely a matter of opinion. Atheists themselves are not to blame for stealing, nor theists for trying to maintain their order, and yet you aren't to blame for blaming. It is simply an exercise in the futile, nothing resulting in anything, as when too much freedom arises, the species collapses and becomes devout once more; or the species becomes devout until it's habitual, in which case the primal traits arise again. So to argue either case is neither right nor wrong in the end, just play to what you will.

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