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Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 13:19 ID:wJoLFedN

i^2=-1

what's else good to know

Name: Skordocott 2007-09-26 14:45 ID:jzXfSJNf

There's a technical sense in which that is 100% of all there is to know about i.

But maybe it's also helpful to know that i^3 = 1/i = i, and that absolutely any formula that is true for i is also true for -i.


Also, it doesn't come up as often, but sqrt(i) = (sqrt(2)/2) (1 +/- i).

Name: Skordocott 2007-09-26 14:46 ID:jzXfSJNf

Urgh.  I meant i^3 = 1/i = -i.

FAIL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 16:19 ID:NRtyI6HM

>>2
I think your second statement needs qualification. How about the trivial equation i + x = 0?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 21:18 ID:vP0HjmxH

complex numbers are good to know.
probably not, but theyre another thing that involves the imaginary unit.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 21:56 ID:KGwDBRMr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit#Powers_of_i

These are a couple basic "identities"--by which I mean they're playing around with 'i to a power' to illustrate patterns. You can verify any of them for yourself pretty easily with some algebra and possibly a little scratching of the head. (Ask if you're having trouble.) Remember that:

BLAH ^ (-1) = 1/BLAH

If you're looking for what USES imaginary numbers have, most of electrical engineering would fall hard on its face without the concept of i (except EEs call it j instead of i for some reason I don't care to investigate). Scroll down a little on the link I gave to see Euler's beautiful formulas for a cursory glance at WHY that's the case. (Don't expect to fully appreciate or even be able to apply the equations unless you have a little background in stuff like that.)

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 8:33 ID:jsDJEFho

Complex numbers are just vectors with two values in them. But because we can do arithmetic and calculus with these vectors we call them numbers.

Name: Skordocott 2007-09-27 11:13 ID:KRlhSfgm

>>4

No qualification needed.  If i + x = 0, then x = -i.
If -i + x = 0, then x = -(-i).

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 11:34 ID:AB8BgvQL

ei*pi - 1 = 0

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 11:35 ID:AB8BgvQL

Shit, sorry:
ei*pi + 1 = 0

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 14:44 ID:J0mcULku

>>10
Beatiful

Name: 4tran 2007-09-29 6:36 ID:Vrj2Bb8S

>>1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion_group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternion

>>6
So would QM and string theory.

>>7
You mean 2 dimensional.  A vector space either has 1 element (trivial), or an infinite number of elements.  Arithmetic and calculus are defined for vector spaces of arbitrary, finite dimension.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-29 7:23 ID:1wYF4ddC

>>12
Fine. Complex numbers form a field. So we can call them numbers. Satisfied?

Name: 4tran 2007-09-29 7:28 ID:Heaven

>>13
yes

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-29 16:55 ID:2jvo5xFH

>>12

Let P be a prime. Then Z / PZ is a field, and (Z/PZ)^n for n natural is a finite vector field.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-29 23:26 ID:CIS/MQS5

>>12
In addition to >>15's point, >>7 said complex numbers were vectors with two elements (the implication being that the elements were real numbers), not "a vector space with two elements."

Name: 4tran 2007-09-30 0:19 ID:Heaven

>>15
Good catch; I forgot about finite fields.  I assumed vector spaces over infinite fields.

>>16
mmm

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