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Dividing By Zero

Name: sage 2007-09-23 1:03 ID:s7G4q8yL

Dividing by Zero - Impossible because Information cannot be destroyed?

Name: RedCream 2007-09-23 1:22 ID:/mKPCdkc

Division is not an information-destroying exercise.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 13:13 ID:feqOYNvD

>>2
Fail.

>>1
Probably so, to divide something by zero, you have to destroy it, so to speak.

Name: RedCream 2007-09-27 4:07 ID:GpcfoXnf

>>3
Fail?  Demonstrate how division destroys information.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 5:25 ID:ISW4TX3h

>>4
10 / 0 = ???
obviously from the ??? we can see that the 10, the / and the 0 have been destroyed. It's like trying to cast the 'be not' spell in the Eddings universe.

Name: RedCream 2007-09-27 7:40 ID:Ufq3MaXO

>>5
FAIL.  If they were destroyed, how is it even fucking possible for me to repeat them here?:

10 / 0 = ???

You failed yourself to demonstrate how division destroys information.  Fucking FAILER!

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 7:58 ID:yZ64nhOw

Information cannot be destroyed? The fucking fuck is that?
2nd law of thermodynamics anyone?

Name: RedCream 2007-09-27 8:01 ID:Ufq3MaXO

>>7
What does that fucking have to do with divsion?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 8:11 ID:yZ64nhOw

This whole thread is an argument about the original post, which is based on the premise "information cannot be destroyed". Now, aside from being generally made-up shit, it's probably wrong if you begin to relate the information theoretic and thermodynamic entropies. Thermodynamics states entropy tends to increase, and information theory states entropy is the opposite of information, so, if they're related, you get the conclusion information decreases.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 9:19 ID:ISW4TX3h

>>6 the original information was destroyed what you made there was a copy, not the original.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 11:15 ID:LbFe+AkF

Yeah, it's fucking obvious that information can be destroyed.  You write some important information on a chalkboard.  Then you erase the chalkboard.  Where'd the information go?

Name: LordRiordan 2007-09-28 1:47 ID:wlI1/sjq

If you divide 10 by nothing then you get an infinite number.

You can put an unlimited amount of <x> that has no space into some other number... right?

Name: 4tran 2007-09-29 7:19 ID:Heaven

This thread is phail for randomly throwing around the terms "information" and "2nd law of thermodynamics" without any relevence to mathematics.  >>9 knows that this thread is bs!

>>3
Division is only defined for certain algebraic structures, eg fields (not cars or other physical objects).  The "divide" encountered in common usage is only related for division by non zero finite integers.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-30 22:59 ID:0BOq5kkM

you guys are nerds

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 0:29 ID:QikAVsDf

Anything divided by zero is infinity, as anything divided by infinity is zero. Nothing more/nothing less.

Not worth bringing information loss paradox into it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 1:22 ID:Uk3rB4AP

>>15
Really? What about infinity divided by infinity? Zero divided by zero?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 3:08 ID:ow55fo9c

you can't ever finish dividing by zero.  what I mean is, as division is simply inverse multiplication and multiplication is simply repeated addition (you fags keep your higher-level abstract definitions to yourselves for one god-damn minute), a quotient is a count of how many times it takes to subtract the divisor from the dividend to get to zero.  well if you are subtracting zero from the dividend, when the hell will you finish? 24/0? 24 - 0 - 0 - 0 ...

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 15:49 ID:TpPiN9fB


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Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 16:14 ID:/OULG/qK

inifinity/infinity=indeterminated... read earl w swokowski's calculus book, imo, information is not destroyed if you do not use it, in a practical way, 10 apples divied by 5 grils, 2 apples for each one, 10 apples divided by zero girls, zero apples, for no one, information keeps intact, you have your apples, so why in an abstract demonstration it has to be so hard?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 1:43

>>17

win

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 8:23

>>11
The information you wrote is not destroyed, the textual representation on the board is transferred on to the item you used to wipe the board.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 10:12

>>21 are you trying to say you can read the rubbed off bits of chalk?  <that was rhetorical>
No you can't because the information was destroyed!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-03 11:42

>>14
we're all nerds and geeks, we are by far superior to any other kind of people

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