The only intelligent people I know are the ones that are good in math. Every professor I had in my life, either in anything math-related or not, was (I eventually got to know) good in math.
So this brings me one old idea, that isn't as wrong as people thought. IQ tests really tell how intelligent someone is, it doesn't matter what other people say about the existence of other "intelligences", it's bullshit. The only intelligent conversations I ever had were with people with high IQ. So fuck the other ones.
Do you people agree?
PS: What do you guys think about this idea: an alien invasion that tests everyone's IQ and kills everyone below 120?
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Anonymous2007-07-29 13:48 ID:Ihz+QjQW
>>38
If you had a country made up entirely of smart people, who would be in the army?
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Anonymous2007-07-29 14:06 ID:WgrE1AND
>>40 And what, except that warm and fuzzy feeling, would the smart people gain from all of that?
A better government/laws, better education, etc. You are underestimating the effect that the stupidity of the average person has on society. And probably overestimating their contributions.
>>41
Smart people can make missiles, etc. Would you really need a traditional army?
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Anonymous2007-07-29 16:13 ID:AId4A0q6
>>42
We can make missiles today. Do we really need a traditional army?
Smart people are already working on this stuff, merely killing of people who have nothing to do with it won't automagically usher in great technological advancements. It will just divert able-minded people to do things we are unlikely to ever fully automate, like janitorial tasks. You are deluding yourself if you think we can do just as well without farmers, garbage drivers, clerks, etc.
Passing laws are just the kind of thing where it's not clear that a high IQ is any help. Intelligent people are just as liable to greed, ideology, elitism and other dangers to a rational system. Lots of intellectuals in both the communist and fascist camps.
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4tran2007-07-30 4:04 ID:nww4Uz4S
>>38
lol @ removing warning labels, but some are necessary. "do not insert cat/baby in this washing machine" = obvious; "do not open, electric shock hazard" is less obvious, especially for some of the one use cameras with flash (they have a large capacitor that can store ~100uF, ~300V)
>>40
In educational facilities, the less intelligent people impede the moar intelligent by slowing down the pace of the class. Admittedly, the instructor has the option of ignoring those who are slow. Most of the bullies are also of the lower intellectual castes. However, these people serve a very important role in the adult world.
Unfortunate for the higher pscyhopath concentration :(
>>43
I'm under the impression that most legislators are very intelligent, but are just rather malicious. Greed is universal, intelligent people invent ideology, and are also moar liable to be afflicted with elitism.
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Anonymous2007-07-30 5:59 ID:b8W4BnP6
>PS: What do you guys think about this idea: an alien invasion that tests everyone's IQ and kills everyone below 120?
>>45
I don't even know why people keep bringing up eugenix then starting "omg slaughter". The whole point of the statement (at least my interpretation of it) was a) humor b) immediate consequences (ie not genetic)
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Anonymous2007-07-30 22:32 ID:+p0bhwuk
Eh, the inherent nature of the human mind to recognize and manipulate patterns does correlate quite well with mathematics. Wouldn't doubt that all people of high intelligence are at least passively versed in calculus and beyond.
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Anonymous2007-07-30 22:41 ID:+p0bhwuk
>>43
You know, technological automation is slowly eliminating a lot of jobs. I, for one, could stand the impending doom of the more personal affairs in life - so long as it secures my car in a dark parking lot.
>>49
As determined by some shitty 'buy our diplomas' online IQ tester, no doubt...
Is there anything more annoying than people that wave their obviously inflated IQ number around like it was their fucking dick length, while showing obvious signs of mental incompetence? I vote 'no'.
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4tran2007-08-04 1:55 ID:XyfiYnLp
>>50
I vote "yes", because some idiot just flooded this forum with "Sooo friggin tired of it".
>>50
It's when they try to justify their obvious incompetences that they start to get a little annoying. "Geniuses often misspell" things is one. Genius is not without an enormous amount of emotional and intellectual capacity, and yet the people who can't even care enough for words to spell them correctly cannot possibly think they have even the slightest bit of creativity to be passed off as such.
I personally, don't think that's all that funny in the context of this thread. The shallow definition of intelligence used in this thread is fucking sad.
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Anonymous2007-08-04 2:25 ID:EyChGZxB
>>35
I guess it shouldn't surprise anyone that intellectual and physical worth kind of tie in quite nicely. Example, someone fat because they aren't intelligent enough to stop eating themselves to death would be a likely candidate for extermination. Not that I'd advocate this in any case, but if you had done a little more thinking you could see the association.
How do you define intelligence, #54? I'll trade ya; here's mine:
Intelligence is the capability, desire and gumption to DO ANYTHING.
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Anonymous2007-08-04 3:17 ID:f/4Zk+Ia
From my experiences, smart people are at least good in math. I would also say that some of the professors/students that are amazing in math (that I have met) are complete idiots. Also, for the idiots in this thread; trying to base objectivity and moral weight to a test that is completely subjective is retarded. Stop with you’re retarded self created ubermensch delusion because you scored a few points above average on an outdated IQ test. You’re not special; just because you’re ugly and awkward doesn’t mean you’re smart and deep.
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Anonymous2007-08-04 3:47 ID:EyChGZxB
>>57
When you used "you're" out of context is where I knew to disregard everything I'd read, and everything I wasn't about to read. Perhaps you should base your assumptions on empirical inference and not social prejudice? Yeah?
>>53,55
But it's hard to know that someone is fat or spells poorly because they're stupid or lazy, or if they actually have a medical predisposition. (Yes, yes, I know. I'm sure you'll tell me that you can tell.)
And people with IQ in the 80-90's are a bit poorer than average in math, but they're not animals. It should have no impact on their ability to control their eating. The associated difference in diet is better explained by higher education and salary.
People used to think dyslexics, and even long-sighted people were stupid because they were poor at spelling or math. It's not unthinkable that some kind of brain deficiencies could lead to being good at math and bad at spelling. And I've seen no link between spelling and creativity.
Telling people to take responsibility for their actions is fine, but making every percieved flaw out to be from 'bad character' or suchlike creates a lot of trouble for people with real problems. People with undiagnosed Aspergers Syndrome get a lot of flak from that attitude, since many of the possible symptoms like bad handwriting, disinterest in people and rudeness are interpreted as attitude problems.
>>56
You mean "everything", rather than "any one or more things", right? By the latter definition of "anything", compulsive gamblers would be intelligent, but they don't seem particularly intelligent by any other measure I know of.
>>59
It's not unthinkable, but we don't know if it's true or not.
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Anonymous2007-08-05 0:50 ID:hJTtGTEG
>>61
I assume he means an array of things depending on the situation. He didn't just mean any sort of activity.
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Anonymous2007-08-06 9:50 ID:hbgLz2uH
#2 fails at intelligence for not knowing what "ironic" means but using it despite this.
>>65
Though it was obviously worth the 10 seconds it took you to write those 2 sentences.
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Anonymous2007-08-07 15:48 ID:xk35X8vh
Maths requires logic, logic is the only way to solve problems, people good at math have the potential to be good at solving problems.
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Anonymous2007-08-07 17:23 ID:+kaa0CgG
>>67
No, religion seems to be a rather popular way to solve problems too.
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Anonymous2007-08-07 18:07 ID:BbVUb2tf
having a high IQ doesn't make you smart, it simply says that you have a higher capacity for learning things. According to many theorists anybody can learn anything if they just apply themselves enough
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Anonymous2007-08-07 18:53 ID:Wiy/3F8R
>>69
I doubt those theorists also provide explanations for why anybody with an IQ below around 100 can't learn simple Calculus if it was converted to hotcakes and passed out at prisons.
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Anonymous2007-08-08 4:18 ID:iTcMQMlS
IQ is a good way of measuring someone's computational skills, which coorelate highly with social intellect as well as just general knowledge. It doesn't necessarily mean they're 'smart' and 'intelligent' to talk to, but it is a very good indicator. It also seems that depression can be a good indication of wisdom. With knowledge, comes sadness. You'll find evidence of this in many philosophers of our time as well as people on the internet and those around us (although a lot less numerous in real life it seems)
Someone with a low IQ could learn just as much as a person with a much higher IQ (in theory) so long as the dumbass is a hard worker and the brain is lazy/apathetic
>>72 >>69 said "anybody can learn anything if they just apply themselves enough", not "anyone can keep up with a smart person in the smart person is sufficiently lazy." The former is meaningful, but wrong. The latter is meaningless, but correct.
>>74 WOULD SCORE A 165+ CUZ HE'S A FREAKIN' GENI0R
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Anonymous2007-08-11 3:58 ID:LAsJxSe4
Knowledge is simply facts. Intellegence is a persons ability to learn and retain knowledge. Smarts is the ability to apply ones knowledge and intellegence. I would say that knowledgeable people with no smarts are way more annoying to be around then a plain stupid person.
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Anonymous2007-08-11 5:53 ID:9fr8rZb9
Claim: This thread on eugenics will be another case of Godwin's Law before it is pruned.
>>77
Thread was not initially on eugenics, but on human intelligence as it relates to mathematical capability. Eugenics came later because ppl took OP's lul comment too seriously.
For that matter, /sci/ threads don't seem to get pruned. The archive has threads from years ago. At most the threads are ignored and fall out of popular interest.
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