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God is a CONCEPT

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-06 15:00 ID:EI35vD5+

    It is impossible to prove or disprove god because god neither exists nor fails to exist.  It's like trying to prove the number e exists: chances are that you've never actually seen e in real life, you've only read about it in books.  Of course, it would be silly to say that the existence of e is therefore infinitely improbable, since  e doesn't go about existing or not existing anyway.
    This is where /sci/ seems to be stuck, trying to prove/disprove the general concept of god.  For the arguments to progress, you need to understand the relationship between god and religion.  Religion tends to consist of three components: God(s), miracles, and practices.  Miracles are what the religion claims to be god's manifestation on Earth: these range between things that happened naturally(ie the existence of the universe, people recovering from illness on their own) and magical stories of things that never really happened(ie Moses parting the Red Sea, God creating the world in a week.)  Practices are the component of religion that says things like: love thy neighbor, thou shalt not murder, slay the infidels (often openly conflicting with itself.)  Religion ties the three together using miracles to "prove" that their god "exists" and wants them to follow their religion's practices.  The miracle->god->practice chain is normally non sequitur and is facilitated by a magic book (ie bible, qur'an) and/or a class of priests/prophets who are free to (mis)interpret the religion for the common people.
    Religion is afraid of science because science can disprove the "miracles" with which religion "proves" its god is correct.  However, neither science nor religion can prove/disprove a concept.

Name: RedCream 2007-07-19 9:43 ID:D6wMoHCH

Elaborate?  Why certainly, O Wise #28.

CONCEPT:  Obey the excessively-Jewish commandments of this god-thing or your pseudo-energy ass will roast like a Kosher sausage forever.

REALITY:  There's no proof of this god-thing, nor of a 'pseudo-energy ass' (or body part of any kind) (i.e. the "soul"), so the concept has NO VALIDITY once you see through the cloud of social bullshit that surrounds it.  People can tell you about the monster beneath the bed all they want -- once you realize that there's no monster there, and in fact monsters don't even exist, then the validity of the concept or threat goes right out the fucking window.

#28, you are a true dumbass and MUST be one of the religgies who are busily afflicting Mankind with mental throwbackery.  I submit that you grew girly squeamish at the idea that YOUR ghei-god concept has no real power, hence your yelping commenced.  THAT was my point, not that ALL CONCEPTS have zero validity.

That you made that jump to conclusion shows that you are not a logical thinker, hence, you're dismissed.  That's about the speed of you religgies who actually try to defend the idea of a giant alien space monster who -- despite being universe spanning -- somehow prefers yarmulkas and gefilte fish.

The concept of this god-thing has no validity in our lives since there's no proof whatsoever that the conceived entity exists.  PERIOD.  Now, GTFO and go scare some more little children with your fairy tales, religifreak.

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