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Safe Sex Without Condoms?

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-28 2:10 ID:8JVX9Qzb

Call me stupid, but I want sex without condoms. Sure, the girl can be on the pill and there can be spermicide and other birth control added into the mix, but, I want it without condoms.

A few years back me and my girlfriend at the time went to the local Planned Parenthood and got her on a birth control pill. They told her she's perfectly fine to have sex without a condom as long as she's taking the pill everyday. This resulted in wonderful times for me.

Now, my new girlfriend, years later, is the patch, after looking into the options, but sex without a condom wasn't offered.

I'm no pregnancy genius, so i'm curious as to whether i'd been completely lied to beforehand and had extremely stupid amounts of condomless sex, or if perhaps i've been mislead recently and that safe, condomless sex exists.

Mind you, when I say safe sex, I mean no pregnancy. With a mongomous relationship, i'm not too worried about STDs. Strictly talking about pregnancy here.

I figured this is the only board this is relevent to, considering health, sex, and the human body are considered science.

So, any help?

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-29 4:13 ID:4uNsJLi0

>>16
if youre really religious, then it is.

in any case, i'd draw the line earlier than live birth, since a whatever you want to call it before birth is, under the right circumstances, capable of life outside the womb.  it doesn't really make sense to talk about 'independent' for a baby, since baby's even after being born arent capable of sustaining their own lives, theyd starve pretty damn fast, and essentially that was what they were using the umbilical cord for anyway.  so why cant you kill a 3 week old (after birth) baby?  it's just a part of the mother that was cut away, and is still depending on other people for survival.

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