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Artificial Intelligence

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-15 0:50 ID:yHhqj6YA

Will it ever be possible?

Discuss.

Name: Axel 2007-04-15 1:10 ID:wWicAp9m

Indeed it shall

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-15 17:56 ID:btvb9fX9

And it will be a lot smarter than the op!

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-15 18:01 ID:LL2qRdgF

But then again... what isn't

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-15 18:24 ID:Xm3yHqwc

>>1
Haven't you heard of Conway's Automaton?
They're like sea monkeys.
Mine have developed religion by now.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-15 23:21 ID:Zg4BgAUr

We have it now.  Because artificial intelligence does't mean intelligence.  It's just a term that doesn't really mean what it sounds like it means.

I think you mean making an actual thinking object, right?  Maybe it's not possible with solid circuits and software.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-16 16:36 ID:iYfq18c4

You should say something like: Machines who are self aware; will it ever be possible. Because we already have what is generally called artificial intelligence now; things like programs that can recognize faces and chess programs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-16 21:12 ID:gIRxq1Ej

>>2
John Searle would like to have a word with you...

...in the Chinese Room.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-16 21:35 ID:MiFei3rZ

>>8
a total is more then the sum of its different parts!
maybe the "man with the room" knows!

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-16 23:31 ID:N0UG0s/I

>>6

Neuroeconomics suggest that human behavior works off of physical determinate processes and physical indeterminate processes (but predictable according to a probability).

While it may not be possible to create true probabilistic behavior using modern computer transistors it may be possible to do so with quantum computing, or a combination of both.

Furthermore, while it may be possible to synthesize natural intelligence  within the "computer brain", many people, especially the religious ones would not have any of it. It's the same reason that dualism was accepted arbitrarily for so long even though it had a lot of experimental data against it (they were either made into exceptions or ignored). Also, oscillations and reafferrence were added to compensate.

I think it is not only possible, but also an inevitability. Although people nowadays are simply not ready for it. I wonder if they ever will be. Perhaps this is one of those things that mankind will just have to accept.

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-17 0:09 ID:flETrOCA

>>8
Word, he pretty much puts this argument to bed

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-17 3:15 ID:FTEb+t8b

The problem with the Chinese Room is that it assumes that you could fool someone into thinking you could speak Chinese simply by looking up a phrase in a table and regurgitating a predetermined response. Real communication is a lot more complex than that; it involves subtleties like the speaker's mood & personality, knowledge of the other speaker, time of day, memory of previous conversations, and an incalculable list of other factors. A simple pattern-matcher would never pass something like the Turing Test.




Chinese Room:
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: Oh, you know, cloudy & miserable.
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: Oh, you know, cloudy & miserable.
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: Oh, you know, cloudy & miserable.
...



Real Communication:
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: Oh, you know, cloudy & miserable.
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: ...What? Didn't you hear me just now?
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: Is this a joke or something? Are you just fucking with me?
Q: So, how's the weather outside?
A: How about we change the subject...
...

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-17 8:30 ID:Heaven

Searle is an idiot.
(See also: >>9)

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-18 2:13

The word pirahna, is all I can think of that rhymes with marijuana

Marijuana MUST be legalized.

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