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God FAQ

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-22 12:50 ID:jf+xS7oT

It seems that every time there is a debate over the existence of god, or the need for religion, theists seem to bring up the same (refuted) points over and over. I was thinking there must be some collection of arguments and rebuttals somewhere on the net? Could someone be kind enough to direct me to such a place?

Name: Anonymous 2007-04-01 22:44 ID:AbJwTmiv

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Because the concept of god only pertains to the bible? and we should base all of our spirituality off it? i don’t believe in any religion so does that make me atheist?

agnostic is not some middle road, in fact its more anti-religion then atheism could ever be. it does not mean im undecided, or that i don’t know. It’s more about abstaining from the question itself because sense experience will never verify it with a clear answer. The question “does god exist” hold no possibility of being true or false, it cannot be answered, any attempt to label it true or false will always be based off a leap of faith.

If you want to be atheist to certain applications of the concept of god that’s fine. Im atheist to the Christian god for instance, but im still agnostic to the concept itself.

Look at it this way

Example 1

“I have an infinity number of apples in my backyard”

obviously false, In application we can deduce a true or false statement while using the concept of infinity.

Example 2

“Infinity doesn’t exist”

 Go ahead an try to pull a try or false answer from this, it cannot be done. Without application this concept has no true or false answer.

The leap of faith atheists must take is assuming the application of god is never true. The problem is that unlike the concept of infinity, the concept of god is extremely subjective. Its futile to try to deal with statements like the second example when the concept at hand is god. The application of god could work and deduce a true or false answer, but we don’t even understand the concept enough to be able to deal with it. The only reasonable approach is to leave it unanswered in conception, but subject to criticism in application but never linking the two.

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