God FAQ

It seems that every time there is a debate over the existence of god, or the need for religion, theists seem to bring up the same (refuted) points over and over. I was thinking there must be some collection of arguments and rebuttals somewhere on the net? Could someone be kind enough to direct me to such a place?

Angry internet atheists are FAGGOTS who couldn't debate a real theologian in a billion years, so no there's no faq like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arguments_for_the_existence_of_God
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/nontheism/atheism/
http://god.on.nimp.org/
http://www.talkorigins.org/

Also, it helps to ask your opponent to define their concept of God (is he inside/outside our universe, omnipotent, omniscient, etc).

Or just laugh at them for being retarded.

who cares whether god exists or not

it's not as if it's important

>>4
you know what, you're actually right, i guess.

God's existence can be argued with precisely the same arguments and principles that one uses to assert the existence of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. I think that's very telling.

Well, too start off, I can disprove an benevolent human like god.
1. Given:God is all knowing
If God was all knowing, then wouldn't he know the entire human course and not even bother to make us?
2. Given: God loves you
Love is a weakness
3. Given: God is outside of science and logic
Science and Logic are basically questions after questions, so you can't ask God if he exists, that seems pretty loophole

Yea, so as you can, all knowing and all powerful is bullshit
After that, its how you define a deity.
 

"love is a weakness?"
thats a (meaningless) saying, not a fact.
gb2 scientific method.

>>8
love opens you up to the good things and the bad things about the thing you love

>>9

Love is an addiction to a hormone. You can buy injections of it nowadays (to keep your spouse loyal).

Weather or not it's a weakness is a matter of opinion.

Poster 7's arguments are fail and AIDS.
1. Why would you watch a movie if you knew what was going to happen in it already?
2. Love is not a weakness. Repression of emotion, however, is.
3. If you know it's spin, can you ask an electron where it's going to be at any given point? Sure. Can you actually know? No.

I'm not a theist, but illogical arguments gall me.

>>11
1.Would you watch a movie if you know every second of it, every word, every image, and the whole movie right in your mind and you could see it all in infinitively small time would you still go watch it?
2. Stoicism
3. Electrons can be in two places at once, how does that apply, please use another example
>>10
All emotions are addictions to proteins, thats why peoples personality can be explained in less than three words.
Whether its a weakness or strength is relative, emotions sometimes help you win and sometimes you lose.

If one were to make decisions based on love rather logic, it would create less than ideal results; therefore, love can cause weaknesses.

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that people often have a need to "prove" the existence of God because: 1)They lack faith and don't realize/can't accept that(the bible states that you go "...by faith and not by sight...", and there are several other passages of similar nature). 2)Life and death can be scarey, uncertain, and unfair from time to time; Having someone or something you feel you can appeal to when things get like that can make things easier to accept or deal with. 3)People often need to feel validated in their existence, values, and actions; the religion/God they choose often reflects what they hold to be true or wish to be true. 4)Do you really wish to believe that you first ancestor was a piece of irradiated primordial slime that oozed out of the water, changed into something that slithered up a tree, changed into a barely sentient primate, and then finally changed into something like yourself? Many people have trouble just coming to terms with the existence of self and others, evolution's too much for them. It's much easier for them to believe some hyper-intelligent, hyper-powerful being popped into existence just because and created everything just because.
There are probably other things I could say on this, but I'd rather get some sleep now.

THERE IS NO POINT HAVING A SERIOUS DEBATE ON 4CHAN.

GO FIND A REAL FORUM.

>>13
Yea, maybe in that context, but in others the results could be different.

I personally think it's over rated and prefer to spend my time studying rather than trying to pick up chicks for sex (who really goes out looking for a serious relationship nowadays?). That's just me though, it's all a matter of what makes YOU happy.

>>12

What >>11  would do, and what God would do aren't the same. Besides, if you're eternal, why would you care about "saving time" by watching the movie in your head?

>>16

You don't try because you know you'll fail

>>1
I used to have a great article bookmarked that listed all theistic claims and provided a great rebuttal for each one. I think it was on about.com. I'll see if I can find it.

In the meantime, here's a good index for arguing with creationists. It's long as fuck, and has pretty much anything a creationist could possibly say:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

>>18
No, I don't try because I don't want sex (I have had sex before, but I seem to have somehow lost my sex drive), nor do I want to invest the time into a serious relationship. Even if I wanted to, I don't get emotionally attached anymore (no crushes, or anything of the sort).

>>20
My goal in life is to become you

>>19
The link you have provided is absolutely delightful.

Define God

>>23
God is a fine, fine specimen.

>>19 here, found it:

http://atheism.about.com/od/argumentsforgod/a/overview.htm

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

god is:
a. benevolent
b. omnipotent
c. omniscient

Pick only 2

>>21
have your penis cut off.

Q: Is there a god?
A: No

^ I'm with this guy

>>29
>>30
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/

I find it impossible to believe in god unless you have been brainwashed at a low age.(parents forcing relegion) A law that I would propose is practice of religion or tricking a child (under 18)into religion is punishible by 1 year in prison and seperation from child. Its sick and disgusting when a poor little child is poisened with this trash, although this generation has less people who are religious it needs to stop. You cannot convert an adult or early formed mind into any belief. Kids are easily influenced and tricked. My law would end all scientific practices being denied by the public because of some old guy on a chair with a goofy hat.

The whole argument is one-sided here.  We're a collection of brainwashed theists and atheists beating a dead dog.  The true believers' point of view is never represented in arguments like this.  The main reason is that the true believers are mainly illiterate and live in the interweb-lacking regions of the south.  I am sad for them.  But I also feel superior, so karma stays balanced.

personally as some one with out religion being forced upon myself i think that religion is a good idea if you follow what your god says, jesus is god for us catholics so you should follow him and his teachings, how ever Mathew mark Luke and john are not god and have not been talk to by god. the stuff that is in those gospels is not the word of god. what the pope says is however the word of god for he is the vicar of christ 

Wahahaha. Science is about as credible as religion. Theories aren't always proven. Your Big Bang Theory doesn't explain the origin of matter, just how it spread. I love it when atheists think they are smart just because scientific logic seems unprovable. I'd go on...but I'm too lazy.

>>35
"Wahahaha. Science is about as credible as religion. Theories aren't always proven. Your Big Bang Theory doesn't explain the origin of matter, just how it spread. I love it when atheists think they are smart just because scientific logic seems unprovable. I'd go on...but I'm too stupid."

fixed.

theories are more then hypothesis. They are things that COULD of happened and are PHYSICALY possible to happen. Unlike God and Other ways are disproven by science. Why do people choose to believe stuff that was written back a long time ago. Jesus didnt mean for his religion to last this long. If he saw this world now he would wish that he changed it all. Religion is EXTREMELY outdated.

>>32
"I find it impossible to believe in god unless you have been brainwashed at a low age."

It seems to me that, barring the appearance of God or gods,  someone or some group long ago, discovered(or developed) a belief in supernatural beings without prior “brainwashing”.

The difference I notice most between science and religion is that science requires “proofs”  to validate an assertion, while religion requires “faith”: Science is show-and-tell, while religion is just-trust-me.

>>37
"Unlike God and Other ways are disproven by science. Why do people choose to believe stuff that was written back a long time ago."

As far as I can tell, science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of  God(s). Supernatural beings supposedly exist and act in ways beyond natural, and science only talks about the natural. Science has little if anything to say about whether or not living things have a soul or what happens to it when living things die. As such, science certainly can’t say much about the possible existence of living beings that exist ONLY in soul form(God[s]).
Conversely, religion can’t discredit science because often requires(and has), some sort evidence or data or logic to back up much of what it asserts: experimental results, mathematical proofs, specimen samples, etc.
As for why people believe stuff: >>14

It seems my attempts at making links FAILED!! Curse my lack of computer savvy amoung other things.

>>38
It seems to me that, barring the appearance of God or gods,  someone or some group long ago, discovered(or developed) a belief in supernatural beings without prior “brainwashing”.
You think they just happened to believe in it? Seems likely to me that a group with malicious intentions could have brainwashed a group of people to believe something they knew to be untrue as a tool to force them to do their bidding.

Just trust me. When you wake up from my enduced hypnosis, 2+2 will equal 5, infinity will be a prime number and Relativity Theory will become The Law of Relativity. ;D