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Ontological Argument for the Existance of God

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-20 4:28

1. God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived.
2. It is greater to be necessary than not.
3. God must be necessary.
4. God exists

Logically speaking, God MUST exist. But what God actually IS, no one really knows. He can be energy, mass, or some sort of spiritual being. All of these three fulfill the description: cannot be created nor destroyed.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-22 8:29

Holy hell this thread is full of retards

First of all, the title "greatest thing in the universe" has no meaning outside of humanity. If humans (or any intelligence) wasn't around to give that title to something, then NOTHING would be the greatest thing in the universe. So saying that 'X makes something great" has NO meaning besides "I think something needs X to be great"

It's entirely subjective, the ONLY conclusion you can draw is "There exists something or somethings (of undefined limit) for each person in the universe, such that if the person were to know about it, they would think it was the greatest thing in the universe"
And even that would be abstract since what a person thinks is 'great' can change as they live their lives.

Since what makes something great is subjective, you can't possibly make an argument or proof about any physical property of the universe using it.

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