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you missed the ENTIRE point, great is NOT subjective that we have a basis of judgement on such issues. that good and evil can be defined without religion and that great and not great are part of the same issue. the definition given by St. Anslem is correct. all ive done is take the ideas of objective reality and apply it to St. Anslems definition. btw everything including "They DO NOT EXIST WITHOUT A MIND TO CONTRUCT THEM" on down is from another thread not from me. the reply to this statement is what i was addressing with the quote