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Dawkin's Points

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-23 13:33

So Richard Dawkins makes a good point that when religion makes a scientific statement, it's only fair game for scientists to examine such claims and evaluate them.  Religion, in his view, is only a matter outside of science so long as religion makes no claims about science.

His example is as follows.

What would happen if archeologists found some sort of great scientific evidence, DNA or such, that pretty much conclusively showed Jesus not only lived, but really was born of a virgin.  And it gets published and peer reviewed and all that.  How many theologeans (at least christian ones) would hesitate and say, "Well, that's science, religion is a matter of faith."

They only use that excuse when science doesn't agree with them.  Again, we see religion has a big double standard.

Name: Anonymous 2006-10-26 16:57


Finally, and this is too anti-evolutionists in general...
What I don't understand is how they can possibly say evolution doesn't exist from even a theist point of view. That is like saying "God created evolution halfway, but then stopped and went on to something else".

Evolution is proven to exist. What we can't prove is how some steps in the evolutionary process came about, and we can't prove that evolution is how life started billions of years ago. But God wouldn't create a world that doesn't make sense. If he created our world, it would be the perfect world (which obviously has plenty of scientific grounding, along with an extreme complexity). In a perfect world (outside of human caused evil, free will), then there simply won't be any half-assed laws about how life grows that don't make sense.

Simply put, God doesn't create junk, and he doesn't give his existance away (relies of faith, free will).

If he created a crappy evolution system that didn't work well, that would be junk. I don't understand why a Christian isn't FORCED to say that evolution has to exist, as perfect and complete as God intended it to. Seems that saying it kinda exists would be insulting God's power and perfection. (And evolution does, at least, kinda exist. We've observed it)

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