The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).
The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).
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Anonymous2006-04-09 14:39
The universities are are referring to are American universities. "...mostly full of foreign students" would mean that you think the majority of the students are foreign. Ok, now prove it.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 14:42
>>81
Just because it "mostly" rains in Amazon, doesn't mean it always does. What I said could be taken in many ways. In anycase, I might be wrong, but foreign students make up a significant percentage. For example http://www.aps.org/apsnews/1105/110505.cfm
"The percentage of first-year students from outside the United States declined from a peak of 55% in the 2000-2001 academic year to about 43% in fall 2004."
But you are just distracting from the fact that majority of Americans are stupid as fuck.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 14:44
Also now that I have provided few sources that suggest I Might be right, I would like you to post some sources to suggest I might be wrong.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 14:45
So, if I had a box with pens and pencils and you state it's mostly full of pens, that means it's most full of pencils???
>>56
The fact you think the absolute number of universities matter proves you are an American with American-quality education.
>>68 11 percent cannot find the United States
hahaha oh wow
Seriously, if I was ever going to use "hahaha oh wow" it was now. The USA must be even more retarded than I already thought it was.
>>71
When any decent country's literacy ratio goes from 96% to 100%, 97% is failing, especially when you claim to be the first power. First power in what? Not in literacy, that's for sure...
Well then, since postgrads used to fill more than half of the seats, it's only pefectly reasonable that the ratio stays true for undergrads, unless YOU can show otherwise that is.
They do NOT fill up half the seats. I don't know where you got that from.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 15:13
"The percentage of first-year students from outside the United States declined from a peak of 55% in the 2000-2001 academic year to about 43% in fall 2004."
It's reasonable to assume that they have gone up again to normal levels once the hoopla over 911 calmed down.
"The actual number of foreign first year graduate students declined only slightly in the past few years, from 1485 in the fall of 2000 to 1294 in the fall of 2004, while the number of US students rose from 1228 in the fall of 2000 to 1746 in the fall of 2004. "
There are more undergraduate students than that. Way, way more.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 17:07
From the same site again:
"The AIP report also found that foreign students made up a smaller fraction of the total first-year graduate student enrollment in 2004. The percentage of first-year students from outside the United States declined from a peak of 55% in the 2000-2001 academic year to about 43% in fall 2004."
I think everyone in this thread is missing a very important concept here. This is a political discussion and has no place in this board. Just because the political discussion is vaguely related to science and mathematics does not imply that it belongs here. Seriously! Bitching back and forth about who is retarded and you all couldn't figure out that this thread is in the wrong board!