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Division by zero is possible

Name: Anonymous 2006-01-09 19:35

in the zero ring lol ZOMG!!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-25 21:17

Math lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-25 22:42

OH SHI--

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-26 4:42

>>162
It's Maths, lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-26 20:41

Infinite is not a number in American English, but it is in British English.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-27 14:13

good point lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-28 19:05

American English is "stupid."
British English is "consistent".

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-28 21:33

>>166
There is no such thing as British English. Remember why it's called English. There is only English and American English.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-29 6:54

>>167
Oh, certainly. That was a mistake on my part.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 18:19

Go into your address bar, and type:

javascript:1/0

press Enter.

See how division by zero is perfectly possible?

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 18:21

>>169
lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 18:48

javascript:1/-0

lol javascript

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 18:50

javascript:Infinity/Infinity

:'(

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-01 19:14

javascript:typeof NaN

TIME PARADOX

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 4:03

>>173

Which is exactly why we do not rely upon programmers to define math. Programmers set convenient tricks to make writing programs easier when dealing with special cases, like division by zero and infinities.

THESE DO NOT CORRESPOND TO THE REALITIES OF MATHEMATICS.

I could write a program that says 42/0 = apple, and you fuckers would think that made it true.

Division by zero is indeterminate, except in special cases. Infinity is not a number in the regular meaning of 'number.'
∞ ∉ ℝ

FAIL

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 5:57

everyone here fails for not knowing math beyond calc 1. a / 0 = ∞ on the Riemann sphere (i.e. CPL).

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-07 20:25 (sage)

>>175
"a / 0 = ∞ on the Riemann sphere"
which is a special case.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-08 2:49

no, it's not.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 17:07

>>25
(and all others)
There is no such thing as "division" in the zero ring (or the trivial ring)

Rings are not required to have the property that every element has a multiplicative inverse. Therefore division is not defined for rings.

Otherwise we're talking about groups but even then division isn't defined because multiplication in groups isn't necessarily commutative so there really isn't any definable division "operator".

So it requires a FIELD to have division, and fields require additive identity != multiplicative identity, which makes the trivial ring {0} usless.

So division by the additive identity is never possible. QED

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 18:54

a / 0 = ∞ in the zero ring, but not the Riemann sphere.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-10 20:10

6 IS CONGRUENT TO 12 MOD 3
3 IS CONGRUENT TO 0  MOD 3
DIVIDE BOTH SIDES BY 0
2 IS CONGRUENT TO 6 MOD 1

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-29 4:10

On a graph, yes.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-01 0:53

>>178
the zero ring {0} can be thought of as a field, where {0} is both the additive and multiplicative identity, and its own additive and multiplicative inverse, in which case 0/0 = 0.

although 0/0 is traditionally considered an indeterminant, it is colloquially treated as equal to 0 in most cases. similarly to how n/0 = \infty  when n is nonzero, except in a few cases where paradoxes can occur which have to be specially dealt with.

Name: Xaro !!2o9nUAXvW/1bf/Z 2008-07-02 18:09

obvious troll is obvious.

Name: Sage 2008-07-02 18:14

1/0 = infinity

what is so difficult about it?!

you make an easy issue more difficult that it is in reality!

Name: RedCream 2008-07-03 2:05

>>184
But an infinite quantity of 0 can't fill 1.  That's why it's more accurate to say it's UNDEFINED.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-03 4:52

>>185
An infinite quantity of man-meat fills your sphincter every night.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-03 5:54

Jeepers, that man-meat would be enough to propel semen to the speed of light, then.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-03 9:03

1/0 is simply a line with no slope.  It has always been defined as such in basic Algebra.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-03 17:32

it's safe to say that the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero is infinity, but since infinity is just a concept there is no such thing as 1/0, since 1/0 is greater than infinity.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-04 5:47

>>188
basic algebra defines a lot of shit out of convenience because actually explaining it would involve shit thats too complicated to comprehend for an 8th grader.

also, 1/0 is not a line, no matter what your graphing calculator wants to show you.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-04 10:32

How is it not a line?

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-05 7:43

>>191
how CAN it be a line? its one number divided by another number... a line is a set of solutions to a linear equation.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-06 12:27

er, X/0.

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 16:08

One thing:

0 is a number, a quantity. What you conclude of it is other thing. 'Nothing' isn't a Mathematical term.


Nothing =\= 0

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-08 17:44

>>194
Actually the empty set = 0

Name: 4tran 2008-07-08 18:54

>>195
Ø

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-09 13:14

>>195
We call it the NULL SET around here, buddy.

Get it right!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-09 14:00

>>196
That's a Danish/Norwegian slashed O, not the empty set. The empty set is ∅.
And yes, they are distinct.

>>197
Null set was once a common synonym for "empty set," but this usage should be avoided because "null set" is now a technical term in measure theory.

Name: 4tran 2008-07-09 16:40

>>198
The empty set is most definitely not an empty rectangle.
So, what font am I missing?

Name: Anonymous 2008-07-09 17:11

>>199

No idea cause I've got it, and I aint got no extra font sets.

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