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Biological existentialism

Name: Anonymous 2005-02-03 10:30

Is a cell an organism's way of propagating more organisms or is an organism a cell's way of propagating more cells?

Logically, a cell exists purely to create more of itself and an organism is just the method it utilizes to exploit a particular ecological niche.Cells vs. Organisms You could argue that the organism as a whole has more control over its cells (via processes such as apoptosis) and there isn't such a thing as cellular independance, but that's precisely what cancer is.

That being said, it's likely that emotions, "sentient thought" and other touted concepts like "love (in all forms)" are purely the manifestations or relics of biological necessity. Love serves a function in that it provides psychological stability (and dependancy), plus it increases the chance of you or your gene's continued survival. Some arguments you can make from this standpoint:

All emotions are entirely likely to be the product/result of biological necessity - and possess no innate profound significance.

Purpose beyond procreation and survival is an illusion. The meaning of life is sex.

Is everyone fundamentally a walking bag of meat and hormones?

Name: newt 2005-10-01 4:30

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1.I agree that those people who are able to fulfill their desires are undoubtedly the more successful, but I disagree that people who leave their DNA behind, at this stage of human evolution, are the only ones to be thought of as such.
Survival of the fittest went out the window when the first pack of cavemen killed a mammoth.
2.You replaced bad with the word evil, evil means ill intent, or morally corrupt, which incidentally shows that people will agree on what is good or bad. Also the ideals of good and bad ARE merging, wars are fought over this stuff, and the winner gets to decide. You might argue that the winner is often the strongest, but wars are not won by might alone.
3.Perhaps the ideals of good and bad are a bit simplistic, but they are just a base that other ideals are built on. Yes I can't say that dieing is completely bad, it is the natural order of things, but I can say the end of this existence is a bit frightening, unless you are someone who has lost all hope, definitely not a successful person.
4.The desire to procreate is just one of the places art comes from ( mans need to leave something behind), it also stems from the need to communicate, and the never ending urge for approval. As to what is art I guess you are right somethings aren't black and white.
Yes law is sometimes abused, by those who seek personal gain, but it is a necessity for a society to exist and grow, and I think it is fairly easy to show that a populous will govern itself and those that wish to abuse it. Again a common ideal of good and bad.

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