wHaT iS NaTioNal SeCuriTy?

Importantly, national security is not just about countering threats; it is also about making the most of
opportunities. In particular, Australia seeks to shape the international environment, both to prevent
the emergence of security threats, and to achieve broader bene¿ts for
Australia (such as trade and
economic bene¿ts).

>>39
Oh you're a miner?
Cool, my father wasn't a miner

>>40
Oh your father was a miner?
Cool, I am not a miner

=) was just watching a bit of Lord of the Rings...

It's about a ring that can make people go invisible (like the NSA's secrecy), and who-ever holds it becomes evil and won't give it up..

Inscribed on the ring;
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring of the Nibelung) is a cycle of four epic operas by the German composer Richard Wagner (1813–1883). The works are based loosely on characters from the Norse sagas and the Nibelungenlied. The composer termed the cycle a "Bühnenfestspiel" (stage festival play), structured in three days preceded by a Vorabend ("ante-evening"). It is often referred to as the Ring Cycle, Wagner's Ring, or simply the Ring.

Wagner wrote the libretto and music over the course of about twenty-six years, from 1848 to 1874. The four operas that constitute the Ring cycle are, in sequence:

    Das Rheingold (The Rhine Gold)
    Die Walküre (The Valkyrie)
    Siegfried
    Götterdämmerung (Twilight of the Gods)

You got good taste man.
I always make my friends laugh by doing the golem voice. It's hilarious

The plot revolves around a magic ring that grants the power to rule the world, forged by the Nibelung dwarf Alberich from gold he stole from the Rhine maidens in the river Rhine. With the assistance of the God Loge, Wotan – the chief of the gods – steals the ring from Alberich, who curses it, but is forced to hand it over to the giants, Fafner and Fasolt in payment for building the home of the gods, Valhalla, or they will take Freia, who provides the gods with the golden apples that keep them young. Wotan's schemes to regain the ring, spanning generations, drive much of the action in the story. His grandson, the mortal Siegfried, wins the ring by slaying Fafner (who slew Fasolt for the ring) – as Wotan intended – but is eventually betrayed and slain as a result of the intrigues of Alberich's son Hagen, who wants the ring. Finally, the Valkyrie Brünnhilde – Siegfried's lover and Wotan's daughter who lost her immortality for defying her father in an attempt to save Siegfried's father Sigmund – returns the ring to the Rhine maidens as she commits suicide on Siegfried's funeral pyre, Hagen is drowned as he attempts to recover the ring. In the process, the gods and Valhalla are destroyed.

>>44
Bad end :(

>>44
Good. Only Allah, the true god, remains in the end.

You're my favourite person on /prog/.
Post more!
Hell, use a tripcode too!

On the radio: Judge Rules NSA collection of American data Legal...
I half-agree with this.. It's your country, if it doesn't affect me then perhaps i shouldn't worry =) How else can they weed out the Corrupt heads of congress?
Sadly, that's not what it says..
on the internet: A federal judge in New York has ruled the National Security Agency's massive data collection program is legal

Pauley cited the NSA's inability to connect the telephone dots ahead of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. "[Al-Qaeda's plot] succeeded because conventional intelligence gathering could not detect diffuse filaments connecting al-Qaeda," he wrote.

Also because they shut the system down three weeks before it happened xD It's like they knew it was going to happen..

You know it's a little silly to blanket-rule something legal when snowden has only released the 'Least Damaging' bits of information..
Don't you think the most damaging bits are going to be the most questionable? And don't you think you should know the 'most questionable' bits if you're going to rule it legal?

I guess, while we're on the topic of the legality of NSA, we should hear more of what the NSA does?

You don't call a bank robber a law abiding citizen because he eats ice cream ^^

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/.../22072205-new-york-federal-judge-rules-ns...
8 hours ago - A federal judge in New York has ruled that the National Security Agency's massive collection of American citizens' telephone records is both ...

questionable, and severely lacking in public authorization?

Butts.
The white pages have been collecting telephone records for years! They make a whole book out of them!

It's all so very capitalist...

In order to be secure, everyone else must be insecure!


cap: ndutely besieged ^^

The first step is to admit you are the problem, NSA ^^
You aren't preventing terrorism, you're trying to cure it..

Fighting it is not preventing the actions which created it =)
Taking action in secret only prevents you from knowing what not to do...

Taking action in secret only prevents you from knowing what not to do...
Kinda like how sometimes when I poop in the dark I forget what I'm doing and fall asleep

YES!
I love it. Your latest posts have so much wisdom.
If only other mid-teens had such intelligence.
I look forward to reading more tomorrow

Luke?
LUUUUKE!?
I keep checking /prog/ every 5 minutes for a new post, but they never come.
I'm really starting to get worried.
Please come back.

>>57
Luke is an Aussie. They are on a fucked up timezone, you should wait at least 24 hours for an answer.

>>58
They all have skin cancer, too, because of no ozone.

no ozone can cause brain damage

*Eats mcdonalds while watching gore flicks*
No Brain damage here! Must be all the ozone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA

The NSA truly are scum of the earth.

Daily reminder: If you don't like being spied on don't buy ANYTHING American or use any non-FOSS American software

Also remember that the reason people are angry is not because the NSA is doing spying, ofcourse they'll do that.
The reason people are angry is that the NSA is doing warrantless (and often times illegal) spying on everybody without any kind of reason or justification. You don't think they spy on you because you're a good law abiding person? Think again, not only are they spying on you but they're collecting your passwords and storing your private email.

In addition to that they're introducing back doors in software and encryption schemes, which means they're making everybody's computers significantly less secure. These kinds of backdoors and exploits are just as easily taken advantage of by (non-government) hackers.

But hey, this is all to prevent muh terrerists, right?
*cough* Boston marathon *cough* 9/11 *cough*
Nice job stopping terrorists, NSA

>>65
You stupid Ammies still believe 9/11 was caused by ben Laden? You still forfeit your freedoms out of unfounded fear of "terrorism"?

I didn't forfeit, they were eroded by A Terrorist Organization known simply as ANTI...
You've probably heard of them, they use the words "Fighting" and "Terrorism" more than anyone in their propaganda..
What kind of terrorists don't fight?

Surely you can't call a verbal disagreement Terrorism? Or Treason?
Or Violation of National Security?

But [the consequential actions of calling] a verbal disagreement any of these things might well be all of them and more?

What's to say you aren't a terrorist if you are constantly attacking people without reason?
Isn't that what terrorists do?

There is a difference between not attacking yourself, and not threatening yourself..?
But not so much between attacking someone else and threatening yourself..
Little wonder you feel so threatened, but by your own lack of self-control? Maybe offense isn't really the best defence right now..?

Secretly, the reason is 'not so secretly without reason'...?

It's so secret we don't even know what it is!
No, you've confused secret with non-existent..

A bit like much of your Authority...
And FISA's =)

Do you draw blood from stone too?
I wish i could do such miracles... ^^