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CL and CLOS are regarded as archaic shit by lishpers themselves.
Concerning CLOS, some Lispers, like Paul Graham or this Jew Stallman, just disagree that CLOS is the right way to do OOP. Especially because that Alonzo Church himself used simply lambdas instead of objects. Morevoer, CLOS is less efficient or intuitive than traditional Smalltalk style OOP.