The IE6 Demoscene

There's an active community of people in the demoscene writing code for long-"obsolete" platforms like C64, Atari, NES, etc. These platforms are slow, quirky, and relatively limited, yet they can do all these amazing things with them.

Seeing all these HTML5 "new features" demos, the thought occurred to me: what can we do with a more limited browser? Not something really limited like Lynx, but something still considered obsolete yet maybe more powerful than most people would think. How about IE6? It has JavaScript so you can write programs in it, lots of undocumented/buggy behaviour, and relatively slow, so could be compared to a C64 in some ways. (Lynx would be like a 4004.) What sort of things can you do with it? Should there be a demoscene category "Platform: IE6"?

Discuss.

>>80
I predict Go, Ruby, or Dart. Google or complete fucking hipsters control the field of bloating browsers for no goddamn reason, although Mozilla might appear to make the first stab (but whatever they choose won't stick unless Google chooses it as well).  I don't think it will happen for a while though, because hipsters don't like working with inelegant codebases, and Google seems to be pretty bad at making decent languages.

>>8
This guy is a true nutter and doesn't even understand what it means to be a fascist or what a fascist is.

Hint, it has nothing to do with your "science" based view of things.

>>1
The difference is that people are actually fond of the C64, but everyone except you hates IE6.

>>71
Unnecessary graphics on a page cause visual overload. While an obnoxious ad might stick in the brain more, to me that just says "I'm not going to buy your product."

>>83
I'm sure the majority of computer users out there would think the C64 is a useless obsolete piece of junk too.

>>84
Unnecessary graphics on a page cause visual overload. While an obnoxious ad might stick in the brain more, to me that just says "I'm not going to buy your product."
Whatever. You still promote Intel x86, despite their annoying "Intel Inside" ads.

>>84
c64 could be useful for teaching hardware engineering, because of it's siplicity.

>>Cudder
I just got after a long vacation, as you can tell, and if I recall correctly, you could use lynx.cfg for scripting in lynx, and use external scripts (awk/sh) using the command line options for some really neat tricks. Heck Lynx can run many CGI scripts and user display modes:
http://lynx.isc.org/release/lynx2-8-7/lynx_help/cattoc.html

What are you looking to do? IE6 is not an option for me, sorry. I'd rather do better things on ELinks.

>>87,1
Be sure to represent:
http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/
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--frontier

Lynx can run many CGI scripts
W.T.F.

CGI is server-side.

Why don't Cudder make websites with <table>s:
http://adioso.com/blog/2013/06/responsifying-adioso/

And after decades, you've got your IE6 too:
http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools#downloads

>>89
CGI for the client, silly:
ASSUME_CHARSET
ASSUME_LOCAL_CHARSET
ASSUME_UNREC_CHARSET
CHARACTER_SET
FORCE_8BIT_TOUPPER
LOCALE_CHARSET
NCR_IN_BOOKMARKS
OUTGOING_MAIL_CHARSET
PREFERRED_CHARSET
PREFERRED_LANGUAGE
PREPEND_CHARSET_TO_SOURCE
Notice they are encoding variables.

Also, nothing, really? You only want to rant? I guess it's your period talking.

>>90
Your browser is out of date. It has known security flaws and cannot display all features of this and other websites
Fuck off. That's as discriminatory as "you're riding a motorcycle, which is dangerous. Please go buy a car instead."

>>91
"Common Gateway Interface (CGI) is a standard method for web server software to delegate the generation of web content to executable files."

Emphasis mine.

>>92
no, it's more like saying "your car was made in 1985 and is no longer road worthy. You can't legally drive it on state roads from now on."

>>93
Which is absolutely fucking retarded. It's my bloody choice!

(I drive a '67. They don't make them like they used to...)

>>92
not >>91, but he is talking about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-generated_imagery

I think he is was talking about making demoscene with Lynx using unicode, really.

No, it's more like saying "you made a car analogy, your argument is invalid."

>>94
To follow the analogies, it's reckless endangerment. Keep that shit on your internal network, please.

Cudder found herself a new thread to necrobump it seems?

>>98
1 Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2013-06-07 08:38
how necro? Its only been a week, and just started to root.

>>99
Everything that gets bumped from past page 1¹ is necrobumping.

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>>100
Conformist.

imagetumblrs

epic top lel epic

>>84
The majority of computer users don't write demos either.

>>97
"reckless endangerment" of who? The user herself. It's my fucking choice.

And I'll argue that IE is more secure than Firefox or Chrome if configured properly, because by default you have zone-granular control over exploit routes like ActiveX and JavaScript. Turn off everything for all sites, turn on what you need only for sites you trust. You can't do that easily with Firefox without needing to bloat things even more with an assortment of extensions, and Chrome is even more pathetic in comparison. Sure they have "Disable JavaScript" but that's all or nothing.

It's also hilarious to see people say "but I was using Firefox/Chrome/<insert your advertised-as-safe browser here>! There's no way I could've gotten infected from that, because I didn't use IE!" To push the car analogy further, it's like saying "I can drive drunk because I have airbags and ABS." Idiots.

>>104
So you're a pussy? That explains a lot.

>>105
inb4 no, I have one

>>104
Cudder, I'm gonna come hax ur anus while you browse /prog/ on IE6 and it will be hot as fuck.

>>104
you can't use IE6, case closed, go dildo yourself

Stop bumping this shit thread jewdder.

sagebomb this shit, please

>>104
Of course, instead of having a properly designed client-side scripting API, we can always make a crappy one and tell users to disable it for each site they don't trust (or alternatively disable by default and enable it for each site they trust, i.e., let the crap sink and users go to the competition).

MYTHICAL TRIPS

EGIN DOuBLE DuPS

Solving anal quizes with amateur shitty-crap was allways being best hipstors game, pardon my French.

>>111
Whatever "properly designed" means, if there is any client-side scripting there are going to be websites which abuse it. Thus it should be mandatory that the user has control over which sites have the privileges to do so.

>>115
properly designed: adj.
        Having the term `sandbox' used somewhere in the promotional literature.

>>115
Whatever you mean, it ain't an excuse to make broken ActiveX.

>>116
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>>117
e/g/in win /g/roski

Cudder, what is wrong with normal demos, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8hSZGTXTx8 ???

>>119
Stop bumping your shitty thread, Kadder.