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Paul Graham funds crap/spyware

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 12:17

Hey /gaga/.  Have you already been trolled by Paul Graham?
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/17343321692/why-are-y-combinator-andreessen-horowitz-backing-drive-by-toolbaradware-installer.shtml
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20130115/y-combinator-is-funding-the-future-of-spam-in-windows-drive-by-crapware-installers/
http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/14/y-combinator-backed-installmonetizer-is-a-selective-ad-network-for-desktop-software/
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711

The story boils to this:

There was a ``startup'' called InstallMonetizer which added crapware/spyware into installers of other programs.  Even when turned off, it still spied on the user and phoned home.  This ``startup'' came to Y Combinator to seek funding, and was eventually granted quite a sum for its endeavors.

Paul Graham, when confronted by nerds, explained that what this ``InstallMonetizer'' were developing was not crapware but rather a helpful free option for users who may or may not desire said crapware on their PCs, and thus it cannot be seen as a transport for malware.

Tl;dr Paul Graham turned out to be a sell-out who values his reputation very cheaply.  Or a troll.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 12:20

>>3-999
Je groque vous êtes les fags de lisp, and nous avons été trôllée en permanence

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 12:29

Time to begin my InstallMonetizer Removal Tool startup.

Thanks Paul Graham for this business opportunity.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 13:16

>>2
groque
Quoi?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 13:23

>>3
better ask him for some funding, and make sure it installs yahoo/ask toolbar when run.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 14:38

>>5
It will install ``InstallMonetizer Removal Toolbar'' that will spy on users so that >>3 can sell their data for advertisers directly at a much nicer price.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 14:44

1. What is crapware?
2. Are you implying that it's bad to be a sellout? Are you implying it's wrong to make money?
3. Users control whether they install this crapware
4. Why are you using proprietary software that forbids you your freedom?

Name: VIPPER 2013-02-05 14:45

How did graham get money for his shitty company anyway?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 14:54

can somebody be his/her scrum master ? in programming company?
by saber tabatabaee yazdi
If someone in small company want to be self scrum master...

He is a programmer and no one can manage him !!!

How can he manage himself?

How can he planing his time for managing and plan for his works?

How Project Managers get reports from him?

Is this possible that we grant responsibilities to him?

Which work items that he define for himself everyday?

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 15:00

>>4
You have complained about ``groque'' which is a valid Martian word meaning ``to drink'', yet failed to notice the word``trôllée''.  It has ``ô'', yet there was never an ``s'' in it to begin with!

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 15:01

>>8
Made a spam filter.
Deployed a SaaS E-commerce thing called Viaweb and eventually sold it to Yahoo[1]. It is now Yahoo stores and is no longer written in LISP.

Used that Capital to create Y combinator which has le hackerskool and gives money to startups. In return they reap 2-10% of earnings.[2]

___________________________________________________________
[1] - http://www.paulgraham.com/bio.html
[2] - http://ycombinator.com/about.html

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 15:28

>>1
Paul Graham is bad ass.

here is a story about malware hacker, who used Scheme for everything:
http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/interview-with-an-adware-author

for that I used tinyScheme, which is a BSD licensed, very small, very fast implementation of Scheme that can be compiled down into about a 20K executable if you know what you’re doing.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 15:29

>>12
Eventually, instead of writing individual executables every time a worm came out, I would just write some Scheme code, put that up on the server, and then immediately all sorts of things would go dark. It amounted to a distributed code war on a 4-10 million-node network.

Excellent read. Good to know about the most deployed scheme app.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 19:48

AND he is investigating:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5062133

and on ethics grounds he disagrees:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5093047
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5092711

So it might he was tricked, and his money abused. Good night/

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-05 23:10

>>14
He wasn't, and it wasn't.  How difficult it is to figure out what a company called INSTALL FUCKING MONETIZER is going to do develop your investment money.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-06 9:51

Paul Graham funds crap
Yeah, it's called Y Combinator.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-06 13:52

>>16
Most startups are shitty little gambits. It's a lottery as to whether one takes off or not, all the while every VC is shouting ``WORK HARDER IF YOU WANT SUCCESS''.
I wonder how morally and ethically bankrupt you need to be to encourage a culture of ramen eating, sleep-by-your-desk and 100 hour weeks.
I hope one day that culture is deprecated.

Name: Anonymous 2013-02-06 14:53

>>17
How do startups succeed if not for dedicated and talented people working hard to advance the company and spending as little of the VC as possible? For many cases, if you don't work hard enough to advance the company at a certain rate, you can't deliver products or services within a given time period which means you can't get the revenue you need to continue business.

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