1. you don't have to (beans/rice, eggs, dairy, gluten, etc. provide enough protein),
2. you accept Darwinism and the conclusion that humans aren't ``special'' aside from their abilities (and the corollary that ability doesn't determine one's right to live), and
3. you hold empathy as a reasonable virtue
you accept Darwinism and the conclusion that humans aren't ``special''
exactly, we're a bunch of retards and as a bunch of retards we're allowed to do retarded stuff like the rest of retarded carnivores, so we can eat meat because that's what we are
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Anonymous2013-01-28 21:38
If there is ever some great food shortage, then i guess it would help to know how to hunt, or at least fish, and probably knowing how to garden wouldn't hurt either..
Since there isn't, it can only be put down to laziness
Non-human animals are outside the scope of innate human empathy.
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Anonymous2013-01-28 23:05
1. They're delicious.
2. Humans are special in that they have sentience, sapience and self-awareness, and that grants them the right to live. Also, since we aren't any special and we are omnivorous, we are as entitled to eat whatever we can as animals are.*
3. I don't, I hate most other people.
_________________________________ * this does not grant us the right to make them suffer, however; as far as I'm concerned, the meat ``industry'' deserves a huge nigger dick up its ass for its endless animal abuse
Also, since we aren't any special and we are omnivorous, we are as entitled to eat whatever we can as animals are.
You could use that to justify anything. Rape? Primal urges for reproduction. Murder? Competition for territory and mates.
If an intelligent being had somehow evolved to spray toxins every time it sneezed, it'd probably be a good idea to wear masks as a permanent ornament. Controlling nature is not a bad thing to do, and anyone making such an argument (a naturalistic fallacy) is acting hypocritically unless they're Amish.
So retards (IQs the same as big mammals) don't deserve to live?
IQ doesn't measure self-awareness.
Even so, many animals are intelligent: [links]
I really only eat chicken and fish nowadays. If you want to prove to me that chicken are geniouses, please go ahead. Also if someone came up to me with an acceptably-priced (soy-based?) meat simulation I would totally go for it and I would only eat real meat every (say) two weeks to prevent vitamin B12 deficiency.
>>9 You could use that to justify anything. Rape? Primal urges for reproduction. Murder? Competition for territory and mates.
Down the slippery slope, wheeee. The reason why those things are particularly bad is because they are perpetrated against an intelligent self-aware species (which therefore has all the rights associated with that).
Controlling nature is not a bad thing to do, and anyone making such an argument (a naturalistic fallacy) is acting hypocritically unless they're Amish.
You mena you want to control what other people eat.
>>11 geniouses
How to invalidate your point in one easy step.
Quorn do loads of meat analogues exactly for people like you, who can't bear to think of sacrificing a single texture in their diet.
Also if you want B12 just drink milk and eat eggs. http://www.vegsoc.org/page.aspx?pid=807
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Anonymous2013-01-29 4:17
Intelligence and self-awareness aren't exclusive to humans as you might claim.
If they are, feel free to prove it.
Moreover, raising and eating animals is a waste of energy.
Meat contains large concentrations of nutrients that are scarce in vegetables. Six days a week, I will eat a vegetarian diet consisting of vegetables, grains, legumes and beans (and livestock milk and eggs) six days a week. Once a week, I will eat red meat, white meat or fish to get my weekly hit of nutrients.
Also, back to /food/ please.
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Anonymous2013-01-29 4:46
Animals are delicious. Meat goes quite well with vegetables.
Humans are omnivores.
Why don't vegetarians bother lions, tigers, and bears about eating meat? Surely humans aren't the only living creatures which should stop eating meat, right?
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Anonymous2013-01-29 8:22
>>15 How to invalidate your point in one easy step.
I don't see how that invalidates my point.
Quorn do loads of meat analogues exactly for people like you, who can't bear to think of sacrificing a single texture in their diet.
It's really the taste, actually. Thanks for the link, although it doesn't seem to be offered in my country. I'll do a little bit of research, though; if meat is indeed significantly more expensive to produce than vegetable-based food, then there should be at least one meat substitute that is less expensive than actual meat (which, by the way, I only buy if at 4.5$/kg).
>>19 if meat is indeed significantly more expensive to produce than vegetable-based food, then there should be at least one meat substitute that is less expensive than actual meat
what is supply and demand?
>>11 You mena you want to control what other people eat.
No, I definitely don't. The point of that statement was that everyone already defies nature in many ways by living in the modern world, so why let nature be a restriction in one's dietary choices?
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Anonymous2013-01-29 12:55
fuck morality, i do what i want.
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Anonymous2013-01-29 13:04
All things from the earth are natural, therefore everything we produce on earth is natural.
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Anonymous2013-01-29 14:02
>>29
So as long as meat is more expensive than its similar-tasting substitutes people will buy meat, and as long as people buy meat the similar-tasting substitutes will be more expensive.
Oh crap.
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