IVE READ SICP THREAD

bump this thread every time you read sicp!

I read like half of it. Overall I felt like it was teaching scheme more than it was teaching general programming, so I skipped on over to K&R and feel a lot better about it.

SICP and Scheme in general overuse recursion that would otherwise not be as appropriate for a different language. I strongly recommend SICP and Scheme fans try to unlearn their LISP ``habits'' if they want to be successful programmers.

>>2
If they want to develop cloud-based apps using agile development techniques in Java and C#, you mean?

>>3
Name some successful and useful projects written in LISP why don't you.

I'm just reading through it for the first time, and I'm finding the excecises pretty difficult, and the whole book is too heavily math based for me. 

What can I read to better prepare me for SICP?

>>4
Lispcraft

>>4
Hacker Jews.

>>4
xmonad

IVE READ THE IVE READ SICP THREAD

>>2
Recursion is often the cleanest way to express an idea.

>>2
So you've read 1.5 CS 101 programming books and now you're a happy and successful EXPERT PROGRAMMER?

>>11
Nowhere in my post did it say my experience in programming or how many books I've read.

Enjoy your ass-pain.

>>12
Enjoy not being in a state of Satori, cretin-kun!

ANSI Common Lisp, Graham > Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, Abelson, Sussman et al.

ACL is way more relevant, Scheme is outdated and weak, and Common Lisp is thriving and manifesting in the corporate workplace.

>>12
What? You substituted SICP for a fucking C book. They aren't even in the same category! Is the fact that some programs were expressed recursively in like, what, half of the first chapter, what put you off? Did you miss the bits about TCO and the recurring theme of transforming branching and stacking recursion into ``iterative'' versions? They were recursive only in syntax, are you advising Lisp programmers to unlearn Lisp so that they won't have trouble with all the {}[]:;, ``in the Real Word''? IHBT

But now, if you aren't encountering higher-order functions with some frequency, as you seem to rag on functional programming, the main theme of the first chapter of SICP, as you barely saw any algorithm expressed explicitly from there on, that means that you are either a student, you write low-level stuff or gaemz (which is decent, if only myopic of you to trash anything else) or... you write Scalable Java Turkey applications, one of the few languages designed in the last 30 years without support for actual closures. Enjoy your Enterprise.

IDHBT

>>15
YHDBT