/prog/ - How to Win Any Argument?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 12:03

Are you tired of losing an argument in a discussion? Do you want everyone to suffer? Well, I won't show you how to win your argument: instead I'll explain how to make your enemies lose ANY argument. Methodological foundation, I present you, has many different names and faces in it's manifold of applications: people call it cultural marxism, deconstruction or just separatism… But I call it subjective idealism, because it denies existence "objective" ideals.

So you want to prove that "2+2=5"? Not so fast! First ask your opponent what proves "2+2=4" and watch the silly jerk trying to invoke his hollow schoolbook erudition. If he has PhD in math, then it will be worse for him, as he will present you some set theoretic definitions, based on very specific axiomatic presuppositions, which no one ought to accept "true", as there is no "objective truth", these math freaks masturbate at.

Next step would be doubting the concept of "truth" itself, because truth is subjective, so "2+2=4" has no reason to be true for everyone. Ask your opponent to define "truth" and counter any dictionary references the same way I shown you how to counter "2+2=4" argument: i.e. ask "what makes your definition of truth itself to be true?"

Now when the fragile concept of "truth" was dismantled, you can start breaking other societal foundations. Ask "what is God", ask "why Hitler is evil", ask "why English must be common language".. then turn the answers given to you against your opponent - the more he answers you, the more he destroys his own phony ontology. In general, doubt everything: ask explanations, ask definitions, ask to show (i.e. "show us God", or "show us why Hitler is evil" or "show us infinity"), ask "what makes Jews human", ask "why your `friend` is really your friend". Remember: nothing is "objective" and "objectivity" is a buzzword.

Now go and tear the fabric of their "reality."

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 14:05

thx op i won my debate club using this technique

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 14:25

>>2
This technique wont win you anything, except maybe a few bans, if you try it on moderator or his friends.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 14:28

define win

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 14:53

>>4
yeah

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 15:12

>>4
#define win troll_the_shit_out_of

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 15:16

>>6
define troll

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 15:28

A much simpler method is to be a member of a visible minority and state that your opponent is trying to insert his privilege by explaining how you're wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 15:30

>>7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ZiXEB_ink

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 15:44

>>8
what is "privilege"? what is "wrong"? can you, please, elaborate, how do you discern "right" from "wrong"?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 19:00

>>3
This technique is legitimate, why else would they ban it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 19:32

>>11
For the same reason they ban you for acting like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 19:37

NIGGER ASS NIGGER BITCH!

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 22:47

please document symta instead of writing this garbage; kthxbye.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 22:56

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 22:58

Plug your ears and chant "check your privilege" over and over.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 23:10

accuse you oponent of being a jew. argument over.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 2:53

Accuse your opponent of being anti-Semitic. ARGUMENT OVER

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 3:22

>>18
fuck off, antijew cretin

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 4:40

>>19
burn in the oven, jew cretin

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 4:55

So you want to prove that "2+2=5"? Not so fast! First ask your opponent what proves "2+2=4"
% python Python 2.7.2 (default, Jun 20 2012, 16:23:33) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple Clang 4.0 (tags/Apple/clang-418.0.60)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> 2 + 2 4 >>> 2 + 2 == 5 False

what makes your definition of truth itself to be true?
>>> True == True True >>>

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 9:27

>>21
What makes your FIOC's definition of truth being true?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 9:46

>>21
define "python"

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 9:54

>>16
Cutie, feminism is our ally, because it divides society by 2. I.e. feminists agree that there is nothing in common between man and woman. What we need is more separatism and discord, more discrepancy. Support your local terrorists!

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 10:11

>>15
Sophistry is a weak tactics - i.e. it can be easily countered.

On the other hand, there is no defense against exposing subjectivity. That is why they outright forbid subjectivism with "anti-strife-incitement" laws.

The easiest way to win is always to make your enemies fight for you.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 11:55

>>23
what ever is interpreted by the cpython implementation

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 13:32

>>18
Yeah, which is a GREAT argument, when argumenting 2+2=4. Dip shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 14:41

>>27
What is a?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 14:43

It is a ~~SWASTIkA~~

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 16:32

>>25
It is then impossible for anybody to win for no arguments will ever be concrete. It seems like circular reasoning to me.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-21 17:37

>>23

def python():

    return 'ONE WORD FORCED INDENTATION OF THE CODE'

/thread

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 17:39

Once seen how woman using this subjectivism method. I usually disrespect girls, due to their conformist and non-conflict nature. But this feminist girl (from latvian "Woman Studies" group) easily managed to put down a few mathematicians and engineers, showing that Perelman is overrated and mathematics is just a pseudoscience. That is when I recognized potential intelligence, girls usually hide, trying to be nice.

Girls, stop being nice! Kick males in balls!

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 17:52

>>32
please tell us more about this incident.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 17:54

>>32

aren't you a girl by any chance, ahmed

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 17:55

>>33
http://pigbig.livejournal.com/449647.html

That is when I understood the power of subjective idealism.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 18:08

>>35
fucking broken google translate. i bet it's intentional, to force us to use google chrome botnet.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 18:37

>>36
back to /g/

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 19:10

>>37
i don't take orders from jewish maggots

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 19:50

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Name: Anonymous 2012-12-22 21:38

>>38
I don't take "no" for an answer from goyish animals.

How to Win Any Argument?

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