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Stallman seems a little over zealous

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-05 22:23

What's wrong with proprietary software? Also, I'm not fond of his philosophy when it comes to programming. Not minimalist enough. Everything is bloated.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 12:48

That's Doctor Stallman.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 13:01

To extend the lives of disks and drives.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 13:08

>>44
nice dubs bro

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 13:10

>>43
To extend the lives of disks and drives.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 13:47

>>44
To extend the lives of dicks and anuses

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 13:56

>>45
To extend my dick into your anus

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:08

What's wrong with proprietary software?
“Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. Roughly, the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. With these freedoms, the users (both individually and collectively) control the program and what it does for them.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:14

>>42
To turbify the lives of those who get hives.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:15

>>48
To protect the cosmo from those in need.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:16

You're always free to build your own hardware and software.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:19

>>50
I am typing this from a homebrew computer.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:26

>>50
Of course. That doesn't change the fact that most of society are completely unaware of the power wielded over them by proprietary software and hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:29

>>51
ping magic-1.com

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:48

>>50
Or reverse engineer existing hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 14:58

>>54
Stay away from my dubs, my general purpose computer and my photolithography equipment, cretin.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 15:55

>>55
STOP IMITATING ME YOU FUCKING PSEUDO-FEMINIST ILLOGICAL CRETINOID PIECE OF SHIT DIE IN A FIRE I FUCKING HATE YOU

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 16:00

People have this wacky idea that you have to have evil, proprietary, spying, patent-ridden programs, or you have to have GNU-brand free software.

Richard Stallman wasn't the first person to make free/open source software, and there are other camps who don't like the proprietary stuff either (OpenBSD and Linus Torvalds are good examples). You can have both, or at the very least not force people to take sides.

Stallman's rhetoric works really well though, especially on young students, because people like the idea they're fighting for freedom and whatnot. I have personally known dozens of people who fight for their rights by using GNU but who have never written a line of code in their life.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 16:49

>>57
People have this wacky idea that you have to have evil, proprietary, spying, patent-ridden programs, or you have to have GNU-brand free software.
False dichotomy, why would the FSF hold a monopoly over FOSS?  Equating FOSS with GNU shitware is disgusting.

Stallman's rhetoric works really well though, especially on young students, because people like the idea they're fighting for freedom and whatnot.
And because some people actually want control over the shit they bought.  Have you thought about that?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 16:58

>>55-56
If this is your feeble attempt at forcing me to get a tripcode, then you have failed miserably.  Die in a fire, cretinoid piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:00

>>60
Stop encroaching upon my right to force you to get a tripcode, cretin.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:03

photolithography is for fags

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:07

>>61
what do you use it for anyway?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:10

>>58
why would the FSF hold a monopoly over FOSS?
Because they've conditioned certain people to feel they need GNU software? autotools is a good example.

>>58
And because some people actually want control over the shit they bought.
Great, you can get that with other ``philosophies''. Fact is that naive young undergraduates don't want this:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119769638425153
or this:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/ctan/digests/tex-mag/v5.n1
They want this:
http://stallman.org/photos/st-ignucius-at-st-pauls/p1020599.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:10

photolispography

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:22

>>38
there's nothing rational in the thought of ending the existence of your race.
I'm surprised that shit-hole of a cult still exists after so many years. One would've thought they'd have given up by now.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:23

>>63
Cults of personality are unscientific and ultimately destructive.

>>62
Making your own chips.  Aside from highly autistic scientific interest, the only other reason to do that is that you are so paranoid that you think that every single chip in existence (yes, including Microchip PICs) has chinese/jewish/american/illuminati/patriarchy/etc. spyware on it.

>>60
Fuck off and die, cretin.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:26

totally

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:27

>>65
A lot of people (myself included) only wish a drastic reduction (without actual extinction) of the human race, in the hope that someday we'll be able to get off Earth and go where no man person feminist faggot man has gone before!

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:36

>>66
but can you make a fast computer with that?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:39

GNU is a piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:45

>>69
Become a parallelization wizard.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:53

>>69
You could use it to safely control a double-agent modern CPU or GPU.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:57

>>72
can i use it to replace disgusting x86 computer?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 17:58

i dont like flip-flop architecture, can i replace those too?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 18:07

>>69
Unlikely.

>>73
Unlikely.  You can, at best, make a netbook-level development machine.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 18:11

i dont like electrons, can i make a computer without those too?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 18:24

>>75
faster than lemote

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-06 20:50

>>76
Hax my electron

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-07 2:59

>>57
I don't know where you get that dichotomy from but RMS doesn't present GNU-brand free software as the only choice for free software. If this was the case, RMS would have forked the Xfree86 project to have a GNU branded X server. RMS encourages people to license their software under the GPL and has no problem with any other licence that permits the essential freedoms. RMS may not recommend people to use the CDDL (for the reason that it's not compatible with the GPL), he would happily recommend a CDDL'd program over a proprietary program.

Proprietary software is evil because users are not permitted to control the software and so, the developers maintain control over the users. Since users do not have control, it's quite possible for the developers to include user hostile features such as privacy encroaching features or DRM.

RMS started the GNU project because all software was historically free by default. At his time, people started taking software and making it proprietary. In order to deal this trend of locking up software into proprietary software, RMS began the the GNU project as a way to provide a software system that will always remain free.

I think you're making a mistake by implying that software freedom belongs only to people who have any skill in programming. Users can have absolutely zero aptitude in programming and still benefit from freedom. How? Users only need to find someone who can help: they can ask a friend for help or they can hire a professional programmer/IT guru for any sort of assistance.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-07 3:33

Proprietary software is evil because ... it's quite possible for the developers to include ...

Not all propriety software is like that. This is ridiculous.

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