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What do hardware engineers do?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 6:23

Hello /prog/,
Could you please explain in ways a software engineer would understand what exactly do hardware engineers do? I've heard of languages such as VHDL and Verilog, are they actually used or do they draw circuits manually? Do they test hardware through emulation or do they use FPGA? Is a VLSI chip just a big ASIC?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 6:34

Circuitry design is still a software engineering. Hardware engineers work with physical materials.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 10:54

>>2
bullshit

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 23:28

I have dreams where hardware engineers get together and try to make their architectures as hodge-podged and overgrown as possible. When they get bored of that they go and torture the language in their specs and hide outright falsehoods in the most important parts of the reference manual.

They may or may not actually do any of that; I really have no idea. The results seem to be about the same either way.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 23:57

>>4
Only x86 is that awful. It was a 16-bit CPU designed to be source-compatible with 8-bit CPUs, extended several times. All other CPU architectures are better than x86 (except the prototype instruction set Notch designed).

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 0:01

>>1
yes, multi-billion transistor chips are designed 100% by hand

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 0:01

>>5
I was talking about graphics controllers. Actually, pretty much any complex controller that isn't a de facto industry standard is pretty much guaranteed to have some weird sh*t going on. CPUs are much better documented because there's a much wider range of programmers that need to be able to deal with them...

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 0:46

>>6
lol that guy must have a really steady hand then ;)

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI!fR8duoqGZdD/iE5 2012-09-26 2:55

>>5
0/10

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-26 5:00

>>9
I don't know why you've been posting recently, but it sure doesn't add anything to the board.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 3:58

>>1
Its software all the way down.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 7:04

>>9
Cudder-Jew again defends his Israeli Intel crap.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 11:52

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 12:13

You probably don't have it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-27 12:25

>>14
Goddamn I did it again

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